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...We mined through the difficulty and brought it back down to normal before still deciding to roll back. I don't understand why you are trying to dispute this.

I'm not disputing that fact; I'm saying that that fact alone make makes this notSafecoin, because at any time transactions can be mutable by a centralized handful of people in some random social media outlet, despite the fact that there's no valid reason to make currency transactions mutable or that protocol consensus did not agree with the actions of said handful stealing the currency from my miners.

You seem to want to glaze over the fact that currency was, literally, taken from those that rightfully had ownership of it. There's a word for that "theft".

This "roll back" to "fend off an attack" was nothing more than outright theft.

Even if one were to agree that certain actors were "attacking" the network (which I still say is utter bullshit; because, protocol), that only excuses taking currency for those that consensus believes acted in bad faith (examples of this would be ETH and DAO funds or TETHER and treasury funds). Stealing the currency out of the wallets of valid transactions that were supposed to be immutable and had nothing to do with the alleged "attack" is theft and, literally, makes this an unSafecoin to even attempt to try to own.

Why even have "private keys" when a random centralized group that makes up only 5% of consensus can just take your currency away from you? Of what validity is trying to claim "zCash Privacy" when an extreme minority can steal your private currency out of your wallet because they are mad at someone else?

Your grasping at straws. This coin isn't even on an exchange. Had it been, things may have went differently. Thank God it wasn't.

What does a currency being on an exchange and being treated as a commodity have to do with stealing the currency out of people's private wallets (the wallets that were supposed to have "zCash Privacy")?
You're trying to say that it's OK to steal currency from people because other people aren't it as notcurrency, but if a currency were on some random exchange and being treated as a noncurrency, then the centralized 5% of the known community wouln't have voted to steal the currency from people using the currency as currency?

You're welcome to continue mining the old chain and bring it to market.

And you're still stuck on this whole using a currency as a noncurrency thing, why is that? Is it your belief that unSafecoin can't be developed well enough to be used as a currency and must be used as a noncurrency commodity in order to have value?

your incessant obsession with SAFE is curious at best. As you are a KMD notary shouldn't you be focusing on the notary NOTdecentralised node voting or maybe looking as to why your DEX does not attract any volume?

You can argue or continue your attempts to discredit all you want, the reality remains the oldchain is still mineable as pointed out to you. You have the repos and the notary pubkeys; please, go ahead...The community has moved on from this except for the opportunistic KMD community members that decided to exploit a weakness of which they were well aware of.

The KMD community had 2 choices, 1. take advantage (which they did knowing full well of the consequences) or 2. work with SAFE. Unfortunately, greed and arrogance won the day for KMD and the SAFE community voted with their feet. You are 100% in your rights to mine the old-chain where you took advantage of a loop-hole and take it to market if you so wish OR you can mine the new chain ethically with no clear advantage.

YOUR CHOICE. but stop trolling. It is not casting a very good light on KMD community.