Quote from: ErisDiscordia on November 22, 2013, 02:43:24 PM

Quote from: Hawker on November 22, 2013, 12:43:06 PM

Surely that is the problem with the whole concept of anarcky "working?" It forces your lack of morality on people who disagree with you.

I think we have found the most basic point in our disagreement: morality.

Quote from: Hawker on November 22, 2013, 02:13:59 PM

I am perfectly OK with the idea of an elected parliament deciding which moral standard to enforce.

Forgive me if I am making the wrong assumption here, but you seem to think that there can be one universal morality, which can and should be applied to everyone. I disagree with that notion.

I am arguing from a difficult standpoint, because to me "anarchy" has positive associations and "morality" has negative ones, whereas it seems to be the opposite way for most people. It's tough explaining why I think this is the case, without further delving into the 8 circuit model of consciousness I mentioned before.

Quote from: deisik on November 22, 2013, 02:16:38 PM

Who ever is going to enforce the laws in a stateless anarchic society if there is no universal consensus about what's right and what's wrong? Grin

Nobody! And that's the good thing about it

it is the responsibility of you and everyone else, who has strong opinions about what is right and wrong. It just seems a much effective way than the current delegation of this responsibility to agents of a monopolistic institution, which is prone to corrupting its agents anyway with the allure of money & power.

So your view is that quaint customs like female genital mutilation, bride burning and honour killings are A-OK in your anarchist utopia because we have "delegated" the right to stop them. Of course I am sure you accept it will be unpleasant for the victims but at least you feel that we will be "free."

Having the right to live a decent society is important to me. It seems to me that anarchism is simply taking that right away.