Quote from: Kelticfox on December 22, 2013, 10:12:43 AM

Quote from: Inaba on December 22, 2013, 07:13:15 AM

And the lack of evidence and proof continues. No bet. No evidence . No proof... Guess we know what your claims are worth foxy! Man up and admit you lied and we can move on.

I know I will never see my 1 BTC you promised me (you being a liar and all)... So I will tell you how I know you are lying from the get go... We don't have the chips yet... How can we have thermal expansion issues or know power problems without chips? Idiot. This is why everyone knows you are a liar.

*yawn*

1. So you're stating BFL_Jonathon did not state your chip issues in IRC?

2. Are you stating that anyone in the #Butterflylabs room on Freenode, in which Jonathon (who is op'd and enforced) stated the power issues, are colluding together to smear BFL?

3. Are you stating that there aren't any outstanding RMA's from November?

4. Are you stating that your customers on your own forum are lying in regards to issues with their existing devices and RMA requests?

I don't know enough about chip manufacturing to state if the issues are correct or untrue.
What I can state accurately is that BFL_Jonathon, a BFL customer representative (aka member of staff) who is op'd and enforced, came into the #butterflylabs room located on Freenode and stated issues with the chips.
Your own forum and my personal experience states that your RMA queue is at least backlogged to November.

This cannot be denied. I strongly suspect that it will be denied (or more accurately, simply avoided).

Whatever you say I'm done. You're boring me now...

So let me see if I can sum up your lies in one tidy little bundle here:

1. You make a claim that is obviously false.
2. I call you on it.
3. You claim to have proof.
4. I offer to bet that you don't.
5. You agree.
6. You fail to honor the bet.
7. I go ahead and prove you wrong anyway.
8. You make a claim that is obviously false...

We are back at step 1.

You are a real piece of work, KF. Lets look at your claims one by one.

1. BFL has no official presense in IRC. I don't know if Jonathon is in IRC or not, but he is not there as a representative of BFL. What he stated or what he did not state, I have no knowledge of. You claimed you had proof of what he stated, yet you have failed completely and utterly to provide said proof. This leads me to believe you are lying, otherwise you would have produced said proof long ago (and gained 1 BTC in the process).

2. I don't know what goes on in #Butterflylabs nor do I care. It's not our channel and I don't give one slim fart about IRC.

3. I don't know, there may be a couple for various reasons, but most RMAs are handled within 24 - 48 hours of arrival in our office. We have virtually no "backlog" of RMAs.

4. What you are even referring to? Do you read the things you write? Is it just random strings of characters you put together and hope they make sense?

So... you don't know enough about chip manufacturing to state if the issues are correct or true? Really? Here, let me quote you:

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Apparently they're also now having thermal expansion detach bumps (like Nvidia in 2008).

So why are you making a statement when you have absolutely no idea what it even means? Oh, that's right... you lied.

Let's see what else we've got:

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They've pre-sold more then 60,000 monarchs which have missed their power targets by about 70% and the bullet run is expected to now be late march.

60k monarchs huh? That would be pretty awesome... you do realize that 60,000 Monarchs would be over 288 MILLION DOLLARS right? Anyone with even a tiny bit of common sense would realize what a ridiculous figure that is. But, you don't let fact, truth and honesty get in the way of your claims, right? Make whatever wild claims sound good, doesn't matter if it's true!

Missed our power targets by 70%... that's pretty specific, especially since we don't have a chip to test with. How does that work again? You even admit that we don't have a chip in the false claim that the bullet run is delayed until March (it's not)... so if you really believed it was delayed until march, how could you make the 70% claim? Oh that's right... you were lying. Again.

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In the meantime, their RMA queue is huge (with the RMA email address refusing emails) with the amount of people who's devices have engines which have just died.

Is it? How do you know this? The RMA queue is not huge, nor is it large, excessive or even moderately flabby. It's about where you'd expect for shipping 50k units. In fact, it's smaller... to date we've had less than 1500 RMAs. 3% failure rate, and a fair portion of those are actually PSU issues, not hardware issues, but be that as it may, a 3% failure rate is perfectly acceptable in this industry and is actually considered fairly good. So... another lie. No large RMA queue here. How you would even know the size of the queue is a mystery, but again, there's no need for you to let honesty and truth get in the way of your claims.

Yes KelticFox, lie after lie after lie. You really should get better at lying and pick things that aren't so easy to disprove with simple logic. I know simple logic escapes you, just like basic arithmetic, but seriously here's a piece of advice. Think before you post. You just look like a bigger idiot every time you press that post button. You started out with piss poor math and have graduated to outright lying... when there are a number of suitable things to gripe about BFL, it's mind boggling that you find the need to make things up. Do you feel threatened? Is that why you are lashing out in such a juvenile fashion? Perhaps you should seek counseling for you problem.