Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 12, 2018, 01:20:17 PM

Quote from: d_eddie on July 12, 2018, 11:58:54 AM

Quote from: Last of the V8s on July 12, 2018, 11:53:46 AM

Coincidentally-Russian-owned Standard reports https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/pub-renamed-trump-arms-for-presidential-visit-a3879986.html
Turner-owned tv has a new show https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/new-game-show-paid-offers-chance-eliminate-student-loan-debt-n890316

From Neil Postman's "Amusing Ourselves to Death" (1985) (via @bitstein)

Does that mean "Ignore anything outside of your backyard and lead a happier, more meaningful life"?

That argument doesn't seem too relevant to the studen loan issue (except for the peculiar quiz show prize).
I'm not sure I follow.

BTW, as you undoubtedly know quite well living on the older side of the Pond, in most parts of the world public education is reasonably effective and free - or priced outside of the debt-inducing threshold (yes it means subsidized). Extortionately priced education is an almost exclusive feature of the "land of the free".

Intriguingly, you once said you prefer an essay to a video, or similar, but it seems you are not entirely impervious to the 'graphic revolution'. Nor am I.

You're right on essays vs videos. Impervious to graphic revolution - of course not. Who is or can be, nowadays?

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Meanwhile the universities, funded by whichever local scamola or chumpatron, are not teaching anything of any value to the students themselves. Anything that might combat the visual fog of today's virtual slave empire.

I agree universities are becoming irrelevant to real world training - with a few important exceptions.

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Here, a person, her gender and nationality irrelevant, but her 'education' 'imperial', is 'bright' enough to go hiking in Austria because it's the done thing, but has no skills to cope with the real world smacking her in the face: https://www.dw.com/en/american-tourist-takes-unexploded-wwii-munition-to-vienna-airport/a-44611194

This looks as a serious case of stupidity. So how is it connected to our discussion? Because it shows "proper" education wasn't able to drill any sense into the dumb tourist's head?

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Here I've made 3 or 4 assumptions, but they stem from how I see the world, and I beg you to start looking at it more critically too.

I'm all for critical thinking, and try to exercise it when I see a chance. About the specific topic of student loans, universities, and so on, a good perspective on education is essential to get a glimpse of where we're going to a few years from now. That's why I'm interested in your point of view - but I still can't see what you're pointing to (if you're actually pointing to something). Or am I lost looking at your finger?

Please be more explicit if you can be bothered (and I would excuse you if you can't).