Quote from: The Avenger on December 30, 2013, 11:14:03 AM

Quote from: 1l1l11ll1l on December 30, 2013, 04:38:42 AM

If you try to order now for BATCH 4 it says "Orders placed today are guaranteed to ship by March 31, 2014." or about the time the Neptune ships.

In your dreams!

Hashfast have certainly messed up delivery if they promised October delivery. And they've broken promises. But so did kfc "refund up to shipping" lie, which they broke before a single unit shipped. And that happened when they had no competition and $30 million ish in orders! Imagine how it'll be the next time when dozens of companies have shipped and are competing. KNC are gonna be lying through their teeth to hold on to people's money.

As a side note, the clause "All refunds will be refunded in dollars and you can refund up to shipment" - you won't find any mention of refunds in any newsletters or marketing email for *any* knobtune batch. It's all been very carefully thought out. That statement was only on the product page, which is taken down immediately when they have sold. If it's not there, it never existed, right? Tongue

So there is no record anywhere on the KNC website for Knobtune orders which mentions "All refunds will be refunded in dollars and you can refund up to shipment". Good luck holding them to a claim that does not exist. They've got very good by now at removing anything incriminating from their website, so it's that much harder to provide evidence to credit card companies/lawyers.

But back to the main point - delivery. The knc t&c's:
8.1 ...... The delivery date is provided for information purposes only and shall not be binding on KnCMiner. The Purchaser is not entitled to refuse acceptance of the Products, withdraw, cancel or revoke the order or make claims for compensation due to any delayed delivery.

Q2 is only for information purposes! Grin

Hashfast now have a working chip. It'll just be refinements and products coming off the assembly line for 3 months solid. I dont know anything about Hashfast, but it seems like all they have to do it keep building something they now have working - shouldn't be that hard. So I see no reason at all for them not to deliver on or before March 31.

KNC are never going to ship on or before March 31. They even say they won't in there terms of sale! If there was any hope of them shipping March 31, they would have said Q1 and taken the flak if they shipped a week or two later. But they know they cannot deliver by this date, so they put out a whitewash date of Q1/Q2. They leave it up to people to delude themselves into thinking it'll be Q1.

KNC could easily have said April 2014 and that would probably still sound good to plenty people. But they have a three month safety blanket by saying Q2, all the way up to end June 2014 (and if they do what they have done 100% of the time before, that could easily mean July 2014). So you can be sure if they gave themselves a 3 months safety blanket, they need it.

And what KNC will be shipping is another beta, untested prototype pos vs a model that has been in production and refinement for 3 months. Would I sink my money into something that has been in production solidly for 3 months or some untested beta crap? Neither, as I'm not buying any new mining hardware right now, considering the massive losses I made buying untested faulty beta garbage from KNC. But it's pretty obvious which is the better choice - the refined product.

Good luck to merv77's fairly desperate reseller knobtune sales pitch. Say what you want to try to make knc's July 3.5TH sound better than 2.4TH in March, but don't bring my name into it thanks.

Once again... Total Bullshit. I JUST got a refund on a Neptune.
Here's a DIRECT QUOTE from yesterday's e-mail ... "No problem at all, the decision is always on you hehe, we promise refund up to shipment."

And You are saying you had "Massive losses" out on a KNC purchase?
I think you may be in a "league of your own" there.... like the only one.... congratz