Quote from: Isaac_Ramirez on August 13, 2018, 05:50:03 PM

Quote from: BADecker on August 13, 2018, 01:58:07 PM

Quote from: omonuyak on August 13, 2018, 12:19:15 PM

Biblical prophets are the one that have really see the future and most of the prophecies has come to pass as stated. The end is very near then when we begin and that is why we should be close to God like never before. We are living in the earth and it seems all the humanity are against God.

Actually, the will of mankind is against God. As sinners, we can't understand the way that God thinks in His perfect desiring for us to be holy like He is. We might come close at times. But we never quite understand.

This is why we die. We die so that we can let go of all imperfection. Then, god will take the essence of our spirits/souls, and place them into perfection in the new life in Heaven.

So, yes! All of humanity is against God, even though He has found some of us who are so weak spiritually, that He can work saving faith in us.

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If you do believe in the Bible, wouldn't you believe that God is a loving creator? According the Bible, He created the whole Earth for us. You could compare Him to a parent. Even Jesus referred to Him as Father. If you imagine a parent-child relationship on Earth, you can see some similarities. Parents on Earth try to create good environments for their children. They try to give them lots of opportunities. Their children don't always obey and they don't always appreciate everything they've been given. I don't think you you can say though that the children are against their parents. They just don't understand everything completely yet.

When God created the Earth for us, he gave us a whole lot of freedom. We could do anything we wanted except for the one law... don't eat of the fruit of the tree in the middle of the Garden. The whole Earth was free for us. But then we accepted the info from the serpent/devil as greater than that of God. By doing this, we made a pact with the devil that we would listen to him and obey his rules. In other words, we gave the Earth over to the ownership of the devil, at least as far as we were concerned.

If the devil had been somebody of little power, things might not be the same as they were. But check out the second half of Ezekiel 28 to see the power that God had given the devil. The devil was able, through our willing obedience of him, to effect great corruption in us at the core of our being. The result is that we no longer have any power on our own to turn from the devil.

The influence of the devil over us is so great that, if we use any of our strength to attempt to even believe in Jesus salvation on our own, we turn the Jesus salvation thing into corruption for ourselves. It is only through the working of the Holy Spirit in our hearts (our core being) that Jesus salvation can be worked in us successfully.

Since our corruption is this deep, and since we don't understand how such deep corruption works and what it does, we barely see why death is necessary for us, so that God can remake us in the New Heavens and the New Earth, where corruption can never happen again.

This whole operation is built on:
1. The gift of God to us so that we have life;
2. The various agreements we make, first with God... to have life, then with the devil to corrupt our life, and then with God again to bring us to His new gift of salvation (even though it is God Who effects this second agreement with Him, in our hearts).

None of this is as simple as you make it sound.

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