Quote from: holydarkness on September 19, 2018, 06:03:15 PM

Uhh... That would be your response? Really? Very well, let's begin.

Quote from: Primal Base on September 19, 2018, 03:43:07 AM

First of all, thanks for supporting the project.

Before you got any idea that I was a mere pump-rider or anything around that kind of species, allow me to inform you that you may rest assured, I have a firm belief of your company's future, and I have no intention to sell at all. I even "lock" my tokens by crossing them to the ETH gateway. I understand that land and building business need years to cultivate.

I don't understand. You say you firmly believe in the company's future but then later you question the entire premise of using blockchain to underpin the project? Is this not self-conflicting? Just trying to understand.......

I would believe the difficulty you experience to understand my point come from your decision to read the post as sentence per sentence instead of wholly, or the decision to not utilizing a correlation between separate sentences, or perhaps your decision to deliberately failing to understand the obvious. It is really a shocking and discouraging found that someone who work as a community manager, who clearly required to be able to... well, communicating and interacting with the community, failed to conduct such an essential action.

Nevertheless, you'll find that the meaning between the two sentences easy to understand, and although (if I may put myself in your shoes) seems contradictory but actually completely related and supportive to the earlier part. The sentence that gave correlation between the second to the first paragraph that you refer to, located on the first sentence of the later paragraph. Allow me to quote

Quote from: holydarkness on September 18, 2018, 11:38:14 AM

What I don't like is, or rather are, your company decision to keep delaying an exchange that has a potent to bring more awareness of the token.

If you still failed to see, allow me to restructure the sentence. "What I don't like is your company decision to not considering an exchange, whereas an exchange has a potent to bring more awareness to the token." Now, read the former and the later paragraph together, and I really hope you can translates those two paragraph as follows,

"I believe in your project, but I rather not fond of your decision to continue on delaying one key feature, namely an exchange. Because......." then the whole sentence of the second paragraph literally describing my opinion regarding it, in reflect to your previous replies of your company sight about exchanges.

Did you manage to get the whole explanation? Honestly, it's not that difficult to understand. Of course, practice makes perfect. Maybe you just need a lot of practices so you can understand people's thought. Start from trying to read to understand instead to merely answer. I know you can, don't give up.

Quote from: Primal Base on September 19, 2018, 03:43:07 AM

"If you failed to see how this decision to keep ignoring demands for exchange could affect your progress, allow me to point out one factor, namely community's support. Some with high visionary and firm belief and strong investing knowledge (the name goes on) would stay, true, but some will also eventually lost faith if you failed to show good progress."

Look at the blockchain space right now. Many many projects are out of money or have run out of money because they burned it all trying to hype up their coins and get them on exchanges so the prices would pump during bull market. Not only did those coin prices come crashing WAY down during this bear market, but it's brought a mistrust and bad reputation to the market as a whole.

And only several project survives, which, I personally believe, are the strong projects with strong communities. I have some projects for reference, whose price "plummeted" to nearly one sixth of their initial price, or even one tenth, yet they still have manage to keep their community believe on their project, and when the market gets bullish, I believe these projects will also improves. It shows that they're really qualified to be called a strong project, a serious ones... or... are you implying that you yourself didn't trust your project's strength? That you afraid, when PrimalBase hit exchange on current situation, instead of striving due to the plenty of tangible products to deliver, they will be utterly destroyed?

Well, of course people are entitled to their own opinion, but I myself believe if PrimalBase play their cards right and manage to keep their solid community, they'll survive lots of bearish (mind that this very chat indicates otherwise, though. And I would say that the very reason why this dialogue happen is due to the very poor community support). Besides, refusing to enter the market because of the bear and then claiming that your price is strong and high when the bull appear would be like saying that you are very talented that you can call the rain at your will while the sky itself is already dark and heavy. I hope you manage to understand the analogy, but if you once again failed, allow me to clear them: it means, what will happen is not due to your power or capability, it happen because your surroundings already support the outcome.

Quote from: Primal Base on September 19, 2018, 03:43:07 AM

"but you might forgot that you're standing on crypto, on a field that's basically cheerish trading and speculations. If your company doesn't care about such and prefer to have your focus undisturbed on establishing tangible product, then I should ask your initial decision to reach crypto. Was it a mistake due to a poor decision?"

No offense, but how is this a serious question? Just because the majority of "crypto investors" right now are motivated by speculation doesn't mean the future will be this way. Do you not believe in the spirit of open blockchains? The transparency it can bring? The problems it can solve? The corruption it can help fight? Decentralization? That is SO much bigger than the current times of pumps and dumps. Primalbase is actually trying to build a real project that can last years......so no.....it was not a 'mistake'

What? No, it was not a serious question. It's a rhetorical question, or sarcasm if you may. Jesus, now I began to really question what they write on the job specification for a community manager. May I know? And yes, this time it is a serious question.

Meanwhile, let's continue on forward with the rest of the sentence. Yes, I am honestly believe in the spirit of open blockchains, problems it solves, etc. Do you? (hint: it's rhetorical again). Because from where I stand, I didn't see they harness the very power of the decentralization itself. PrimalBase is trying to build a real project that can last years... with its base, or half of its base, on cryptoworld, yet they somehow decide to not fully embrace the cryptoworld. They focused on delivering products, constructing and building workspaces while hiring a snarky community manager to maintain their community. And let's see our current position, our current price against ICO price, in regards to the whole cryptomarket fluctuation, and in reference to your buildings achievement.

After the initial freefall, when the market rises, your price rather stays, when the market fall down, you stay, when you announce buildings, guess what? Yep, your price also stay at relatively same position. I would argue that this is because you are lack of exchange, or lack of access for the community to utilize your project as one of the trading assets. How is this is an embrace of the power of blockchain? (Hint 2: again, this is a rhetorical).

You've tried your way and it didn't show significant improvement, why don't you try the community's suggestion of adding new exchanges to boost visibility, accessibility, and liquidity?

And if you failed to understand how the two sentence above this one is correlated to my statement that I believe on your project as a long term, it spelled as: I believe that your project will bring bright future, that's why I will not sell my token in a very long term until I see that your price is right, but an exchange will help gain interests and enthusiasm from cryptoworld so your price won't looks like a stagnant.

How about you informing your board of directors about this, and while they contemplating on it, either they hire a new community manager that is more capable of attending to inquiries on this media in a more polite ways than yours, or you learn on how to regards your investors. I held a firm believe that, of course, your company culture dictate that you didn't discriminate small investors from big investors? Oh... yes darling, this one can be answered, it is rather a sarcasm, but confirming this will set several understandment on how to navigate through your company's medias.

How can you expect one to interpret your sarcasm via written text only with no effort to include any sort of emoji (which are available to use here and is what one uses in polite society to convey sarcasm over the internet so there are no misunderstandings because written words are misinterpreted all the time).

You want politeness? Perhaps you could read your last message to me and decide for yourself whether you are being polite yourself? How polite do you think you are being on a scale from 0-10?

My apologies if you aren't finding the yes man that agrees with your point of view.

Q: "You've tried your way and it didn't show significant improvement, why don't you try the community's suggestion of adding new exchanges to boost visibility, accessibility, and liquidity?"

A: Didn't show significant improvement in what? Getting people to buy and trade more of the token to increase the price of the token? I think it's clear by now that Primalbase doesn't care about the price of the token in the short term. They are focused on building features and eventually getting adoption with those features. They are choosing to spend their time working to cater to the needs of those who would use the token, not speculate over it....especially when they are still working to get their first 5 offices up and leasing feature.

Q: After the initial freefall, when the market rises, your price rather stays, when the market fall down, you stay, when you announce buildings, guess what? Yep, your price also stay at relatively same position. I would argue that this is because you are lack of exchange, or lack of access for the community to utilize your project as one of the trading assets. How is this is an embrace of the power of blockchain? (Hint 2: again, this is a rhetorical).

A: I'm not disagreeing with you. I agree that getting more liquidity to the token and doing marketing could possibly drive up prices. The point here is that the company is not focused on that and don't really care much if the price is pumping up or down. So what is the point to continuously bring it up? If you want to interpret that to mean the company doesn't care about small investors, that's your prerogative. They are not designing this for crypto traders. It would be fun if they were (for me as well), but they aren't. So that's that.