Quote from: Thul on November 28, 2018, 10:29:54 AM

Quote from: Munti on November 28, 2018, 08:43:10 AM

You have not clearly stated what kind of market/target you are talking about.

I am talking about producers whose purpose is not to finance state terrorism through taxes. These people need a suitable market place in combination with a suitable currency (keyword "untraceable").

They need a platform whose functionality and usability is comparable to ebay, amazon...

Of course the currency must not force anyone to load the blockchain.
And of course there must be a possibility to exchange this currency "untraceable" directly for Fiat (without KYC).

We have cash for coins and it's peer to peer. It's the responsibility of the users to do KYC similar to localbitcoins deals. Especially since there is no escrow. So it's about as anonymous as one chooses to make it or the rules of where they live. It's already seen that Bitmessage has at least the strength of TOR if not greater.

You say you want functionality comparable to amazon which uses giant multi-million dollar servers on top of a decentralized system but you don't want to download the blockchain. You are a typical consumer, nothing anyone does is good enough for you.

If you don't download the blockchain then who will protect the network?! The only thing we can do to speed that up is let users connect to servers while download it so at least they don't lose any time connecting to markets. However for the markets there is also the concept of nodes relaying orders while waiting to download from Bitmessage as well. This system is built with users security in mind. It doesn't cut corners like Steemit or other DPOS pseudo-centralized systems.

Try to appreciate the fact that this was the worlds first decentralized market and the ONLY software in which you can have 2 party escrow other than BitHalo. Try to fathom WHAT has been built here. You should be happy this exists at all. Like Doc said, what have you built? This software is like 50k lines all of which I have coded for the past 4 years. And the team is making a web based market to commercialize decentralization. This doesn't even touch on the peg. What more can a crypto advocate want?!

And why do you keep asking the community to give you the green-light on breaking the rules. Have you lost your mind? This is a protocol, it's not responsible for your actions... you are responsible for the risks you take.

The problem with guys like you is you want someone else to take the bullet for you. Whatever freedoms you don't have are because you have simply consented to lose them.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.