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Mastercoin to rule them all.

Mastercoin is amateur hour compared to what these folks have planned.

Right. Ethereum is to Mastercoin what Peercoin is to Bitcoin. 1st mover advantage will be huge.

Also, Charles said at the Miami conference Ethereum will only be traded on the open market Q3 or Q4 (autumn-winter of 2014) so those buying into this IPO for a quick flip have no idea what they're getting into and will be locked in from trading for quite a while.

Ethereum, Mastercoin, Open Transactions, even Ripple are going to partner or work closely to build inter-functionality. The community is becoming more cooperative than competitive. There will be quite a few winners.

Did you watch that video? Got to love the tension there between Charles and the Invictus dude. Just watch Charles' reactions when Invictus dude talks. It's clear as daylight they have eachother's guts. And they've put the MSC guy between them to separate the two. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-9miCOsg4g#t=1541

Also notice that "touring complete" part", when Charles gets pissed at the Invictus dude talking about Turing complete as being part of his project also.

These guys hate each other, make no mistake about it. They were just playing nice for the camera. You're naive if you believe otherwise. They were just playing into the narrative, that's all.

Thanks for the link to the interview. Watched it fully. Now I can say that the guy from Invictus innovations seems to be a really strange fella... he talks much marketing with a lot of buzz words, repeating himself, much form...not much contents. He looks to be unconnected with reality and mainly fantasizing about profits while eliminating mining. If mining is such a dumb and unnecessary thing then why satoshi put it into bitcoin? What about security if you remove mining?

This guy is weird, he's body language is irritating, he does not have a clear understanding what he himself is talking about, even the host asked him wtf are you trying to communicate?.

The guy from master coin from the other hand seems to be legit, understanding and coherent. I think that he also has some wishful thinking about the length to which the bitcoin core developers will go in order to expand the functionality he really wants. While it will be expanded, but not to a degree that he wants, because they will not risk an already established system with radical changes.

I think Charles put a great interview, clearly communicating about ethereum and earning him some positive points along the way.

Mastercoin doesn't need to wait for Bitcoin to do changes. It just uses the Bitcoin protocol for distribution. That's all. It is a safe and pretty secure network, which is why it's worth using versus starting a fresh one.

Charles did his own marketing attempts trying to push this Vitalik as uber genius geek narrative (which he may or may not be. some said he's really clueless on financial side and that might impact way he sees the design of the system in a negative way). The Invictus guy seemed bit weasel like, but he is smart and creative. Their distribution model with angel shares and such was pretty creative, though I wouldn't bet on them. Keep in mind though Charles split from Invictus, so Charles did plenty of work to bring protoshares where it is now. He basically started fresh with Ethereum and needs to catch up a fucking LOT to both Mastercoin and Protoshares (invictus), but especially Mastercoin which now has functional decentralized exchange in beta stage, while Ethereum only has "touring complete" talk and fantasies and a failed IPO attempt.