Quote from: pankkake on February 11, 2014, 01:17:34 AM

Asset	ActiveMining	Labcoin

Exchanges	~~BitFunder, BTC-TC~~, Cryptostocks, Crypto-Trade	~~BTC-TC, Cryptostocks~~

Identities	Known from the start; American alcoholic fatso and his family. Past get-rich-quick businesses disappeared (HFT trading, Million Dollar Web Hosting)	Known from the start; Italian guys, some of which already associated to scams (zenpad, bitdaytrade, bitscalper)

Technical competence of the team	None, yet claimed. Offloaded the work.	None. Offloaded the work for cheap.

Paid dividends	Yes	Yes

Faked mining	Yes (admits to using Cex.io without telling shareholders). Surely at a loss.	Yes (tried to resell the hardware on Italian eBay). Probably at a loss.

Mined with/produced own hardware	Never	Never

Posted pictures	Yes (mostly through third-parties), but nothing to see	Yes, with many users defending how legit they were despite apparent flaws

Posted detailed chip specs	Yes	Yes

Admitted failure to create chips and immediately talked about better chips	Yes	Yes

Contradictory statements	Many, some admitted.	Many, never admitted.

Official documents	Business registration, eASIC NDA	Business registration, fab order

Had "easy money" spreadsheet	Yes, made by user Vbs, officially part of the Advisory Board	Yes, on the first page

Officially relied on random forum users for PR	(Streets 2.0), (ffssixtynine, lolstate, Vbs, lewicki), (Bargraphics)	TheSwede75

Sockpuppets	Mac65, Bit-Vestor, Babefoot?	?

Traded on exchanges with verification before listing	Yes	Yes

Crowd opinion	Majority of Bitcointalk users say it's not a scam.	Majority of Bitcointalk users said it's not a scam, until final disappearance. Most of the evidence was already out there; only the final disappearance changed things.

Complaints about "FUD", "trolls", calls for ignores, etc.	Overwhelming.	Overwhelming.

Released financial reports	Flawed, and nothing released for months. No details on eASIC and UMC costs. Said "excellent financial position". Considers unpaid preorders as real sales. Salary?	Never. Said they had half left.

Traded own stock	Admitted multiple times	Likely

Exchange migration	Unnecessarily cumbersome, or even gouging, unnecessary delays	Flawless

Still operating	Yes, but dividends not paid	No

Switched from unmoderated to moderated thread	Yes. Many posts deleted totaling a high number of man-hours.	Yes. Many posts deleted totaling a high number of man-hours.

Cheap shares!	These are a bargain and should go very quick	take advantage of the current cheap prices

Lawsuit	No	Yes

So, which was the better investment? Which is a scam? You decide.

To finish, some trading advice.