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Re: Total corruption in Russian local [DT involved!]
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KTChampions
on 23/06/2019, 11:22:44 UTC
xtraelv

1.) Perhaps you will see a correlation when you analyze a lot of individual cases (as i do). But you refuse to give a specific answer, even about one user tema.
1) I fail to see the direct correlation between tema and Total corruption in Russian local  involving DTs.

If you have a problem with Tema then open a thread in reputation about it.
1.) I do not see your answer to this point, so I repeat my question:
But when a huge number of abusers send merit to one user it is obvious merit abuse.
And what can you say about tema? He sent merit only to abusers (as I showed in detail). Is this behavior trustworthy?
No answer.

2.) Please, give me a direct link to this answer.
2) Already answered in detail. Read my previous responses.
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Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
I showed his alts and their behavior here and here
Any objections or do you agree?
No answer.

3.) Please, give me a direct link to this answer.
3) Already answered in detail. Read my previous responses.
3.) I do not see your answer to this point, so I repeat my question:
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In the link you posted he explained himself. He withdrew from the project and even publicly stated that he thought it was a scam.

To me it indicates that he got involved with something he disagreed with, left and was transparent about it. It does not make me think that he is an intentional scammer.

Why you want to believe in words but not in facts?
He collaborated with the project and received money from it. He knew that this project was scam. He was silent about it.
He confessed that he had collaborated with the project and knew that it was a scam only after he received accusations of fraud - only 1 year later from the project started. Fraudsters had a lot of time to deceive people.
Smart man is a scamer. It is facts not just words.
Any objections or do you agree?
No answer.

4.) Please, give me a direct link to this answer.
4) Already answered in detail. Read my previous responses.
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Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No?
Same:
When I talk about spam you say there is no evidence. When I talk about bumping, you say that spam is not prohibited (according to Teymos).
Do you seriously think that I will not see this juggling?  Grin
Can you answer without juggling? Did Smart man hire people in the bumping service and did he offer such services?
The value of posts that are written for one purpose - the thread bump will be discussed later.
No answer.

What I have found over time is that there are a number of relatively new users that come to the forum and decide that they are self appointed judge, jury and executioner and like a zealot have a strict and uncompromising view of the world. Everyone else is wrong and they are right.
Oh  Smiley
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At the moment I do not understand the arguments of taikuri13 and chimk, who have written about the situation with the Smart man
It is absolutely obvious from the evidence that the Smart man recruited people to provide bumping / shilling services for projects. And there seems to be no doubt that bumping services harm forum users, the reasons have been repeatedly mentioned in this topic.
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MaoChao is not new user, zealot etc.
Do you know MaoChao? What do you say about his opinion?

If you re-read my previous comments you will see my justification. All the extensive answers to your questions have been provided in this thread.

To borrow a famous quote from Satoshi:

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

I have provided the information. I cannot help you understand it.

If suddenly you find time and desire to continue the discussion, please come back.

I see it is very difficult for you to discuss a large amount of information. Especially for you I will lower the level of discussion.
1.) What can you say about bumping (taking into account proofs and  the opinion of Mao Chao)?
2.) What about alts of Smart man?

I respect MaoChao's opinion, but if he is satisfied with these facts, they are not enough for me. Everyone has their own point of view on the amount of information to complete the evidence base.

The fact that you will try to tie the respected users of the Russian locale into a corruption scheme is a complete nonsense! In fact, there are a lot of DT users and maybe some of them will have enough of your evidence but not me.

I started to notice trolling about me, and I don't talk to trolls.

So, your first attempt to avoid discussing about specific facts was the answer "I do not know."
Now a new attempt in the form of an answer: "You are a troll."
And why did you completely miss the second point?

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At the moment I do not understand the arguments of taikuri13 and chimk, who have written about the situation with the Smart man
It is absolutely obvious from the evidence that the Smart man recruited people to provide bumping / shilling services for projects. And there seems to be no doubt that bumping services harm forum users, the reasons have been repeatedly mentioned in this topic.
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Hmmm...
Evidence is not enough! (C) madnessteat.