Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 06, 2019, 02:46:12 AM

Quote from: kingcolex on September 06, 2019, 01:25:13 AM

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 06, 2019, 01:21:20 AM

Quote from: kingcolex on September 06, 2019, 12:58:27 AM

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on September 05, 2019, 11:42:11 PM

Ireland is part of the EU.

The EU controls its borders.

If the UK is not part of the EU, then there needs to be border controls between the EU and UK.

Its like saying the United States is forcing Canada to have border controls.

No what I'm saying is when the UK is sovereign and can control it's borders only one party is the one forced to have borders that being Ireland and it's not by their choice possibly but by the EU.

Sorry I dont understand. Can you explain it a different way?

If there is a border there needs to be guards on both sides of the border? Both on Northern Irish side and Irish side?

What I am saying is once the UK is NOT a part of the EU they are again able without any other countries input allowed to do there borders. They may not WANT a physical border with Ireland and Ireland MAY NOT want a physical border with Norther Ireland. This would normally mean the two countries agree and there is no Physical border needed.

The possibility is the EU says NO, Ireland we want you to have a physical border with them since they are not an EU member.

Ireland and the UK(Post Brexit) both have a physical border they don't want due to an rules from a group of other nations.

Ireland could only blame themselves for having a physical border if they are the ones putting it up.

Ok. Lets suppose in this new world England has a tax on cigarettes of £5 per packet and the EU has a tax of 1 per packet.

Do you really think that the UK would allow anyone to load up a lorry full of cigarettes in Dublin and drive it to Belfast and then on a ferry to Scotland? Do you really believe that ?

Keep in mind that cigarette smuggling is said to be a major source of terrorist financing.

There are a lot of things that are differently taxed in Sweden and Norway, And the Norwegians do smuggle a lot of things to Norway from Sweden, but that is counteracted with spot checks and cameras. Open borders with no wall doesn't mean you are aloud to freely move goods, just people.