Quote from: zikzik on Today at 10:33:05 PM

2. I have submitted the claim 3 days ago and have not heard anything back yet. Not a word apart from the automated acknowledgement email. So for now i am only watching from the side while my bitcoin is running away ...

If so, it sounds like your current complaint is that mediation is slow. Though it has only been three days.

Anyone here who has experience with these mediation processes (which I do not), how long does it usually take? Assuming that the mediator has not yet responded, I think that there is probably a reasonable timeframe to zikzik to wax impatient; I doubt that the timeframe is three days.

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Quote from: zikzik on Today at 10:33:05 PM

Quote from: nullius on Today at 10:19:49 PM

Question for zikzik, in fairness: Betcoin.AG has publicly promised to abide by the results of the mediation. Do you, too?

Well, i have nothing to abide the decision with... they have my bitcoin, not the other way around.

I meant with regard to this:

Quote from: zikzik on Today at 07:38:19 PM

As i promised you in the beginning, i will not let it go. For now, you accused me of scam and you taken action - blocked my BTC, so i think it is only fair for me also to take action, as i feel i am the one being scammed by you here.

So taking action i will. I will make sure that as many people as possible will know about your scamming practices. What is interesting is why you worry about it and my spending time doing it. If you are not scamming me, you have nothing to worry about Wink

The purpose of mediation is supposed to be to resolve these issues—either way.

Quote from: zikzik on Today at 10:33:05 PM

He just simply ignores ANY request for some exact information. Hell, he even still did not provide anybody with the exact balance of my account. Can that somehow put their security protocols in scrutiny ?

I am guessing that it goes something along the lines of advice to the effect that, “If somebody is publicly accusing you of stealing money from him, and demanding that you specify the exact amount that he claims you stole, then STFU and don’t do discovery on a public forum.”

That said, I would think that this kind of information would need to be disclosed through any kind of a reasonable mediation process; and I do not see a reason why it should be kept confidential there.

Quote from: zikzik on Today at 10:33:05 PM

They would never explain that. All they can do is go into some general thoughts about their security, their history with abusive players (which won big money there i presume). But for me, they will never tell anybody. Because they have nothing to tell ...

Quote from: zikzik on Today at 10:33:05 PM

I lost 1.7 btc there, there was no abuse. I lost it betting on their platform.

It sounds to me like by your own theory, they should have welcomed you to keep your account! #justsaying

I hope that the mediator responds soon, and that the dispute will be resolved in an appropriate manner.

For my part, I don’t see a need for me to rehash this more. Except for one thing:

Dicey Justice

Quote from: zikzik on Today at 10:33:05 PM

1. I dont play cards, i only do sports betting

Well, what about dice?

Once upon a time (Sixteenth Century, IIRC), there was a suggestion that all disputes should be resolved by throwing dice. Because real-world, government-run courts packed with lawyers have a dismal track record of resolving cases with justice less frequently than would be obtained by random chance. It is true...

Sorry, I don’t recall off the top of my head what witty wag made that suggestion; I should look it up, but I am feeling lazy at this particular moment.