Subject: [WO] E pur si muove

For those who do not understand the subject, and its relation to Galileo (discussed below):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_pur_si_muove!

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Quote from: nullius on November 13, 2020, 06:07:17 PM

Twitter is for bird-brains.

Dumb twits. Good satire; however, I do need to make some corrections and additions.

Quote from: Phil_S on November 13, 2020, 10:19:39 AM

America is not the world-police!

Evil Empires: “Commie, and very Commie.”

Just had to say it. I don’t see an argument here; I think that Ron Paul would agree with me at least on the “no world police” part, and on the importance of national sovereignty. Pseudo-Paul’s tweet is, of course, deadly correct.

Quote from: Phil_S on November 13, 2020, 10:19:39 AM

Galileo was not popular.

He stood against not only the Church, but also society itself. Accordingly, he was about as popular as I am: A few intelligent people appreciated him, such as the Medici duke who was his primary supporter at the end of his life; he even had supporters high within the Church. But he was otherwise considered scandalous, and even criminal.

The ignorant modern mind tends to assume that rebelling against the Church was always super-cool. Whereas in 1632, heresy was like racism, sexism, or social class discrimination are today. (n.b.)

Galileo’s wife was so embarrassed and angry at his sins, she burnt his papers after he died. Unknown works of irreplaceable genius were thus irretrievably destroyed. Because: Unpopular. The notion that he would have received 2.3K retweets and 18.6K “likes” is wildly implausible.

Galileo is cancelled.

If Galileo actually said, “But it moves!”, such was the classic protest of a man who attempts to move the world.

Also, per the above, Galileo’s sentencing by the Inquisition occurred in a course of events in 1632–33. He was persecuted in 1615–16 (when Copernicus’ De Revolutionibus was added to the Index Librorum Prohibitorum), so that is not incorrect; but 1633 was when he was actually forced to recant, and condemned to house arrest for the rest of his life. —If the date of 15 May 1615 has a special significance, I don’t know it off the top of my head; accordingly, I would congratulate the satirist for having exceeded me on that particular point.

Quote from: Phil_S on November 13, 2020, 10:19:39 AM

Paul Revere did not actually say this. And in April of 1775, the American colonists still identified themselves as British. Such use of the term “the British” is a widely revered anachronism.

If Americans were to warn each other of an impending BATF raid today, they would not shout, “The Americans are coming!”

Most of the colonists of early 1775 were proud Englishmen, standing up for the rights accorded to every free British subject by law and custom. Their attitude was not unlike that of the American Patriots who today seek to “restore the Constitution”—who “love their country, but fear their government”.

Although succession from Britain was definitely on the table in early 1775 (cf. Patrick Henry, et al.), it took some time for the increasingly radical British protesters fully to form a separate identity as Americans—socially, culturally, and politically as declared on 2 July 1776 (celebrated 4 July, because Americans are not very good with dates and times). Of course, the Battles of Lexington and Concord marked a major milestone in that process of radicalization; but it must be viewed in its historical context, as indeed the major turning point between the conciliatory attitude of the First Continental Congress, and the rebellious attitude of the Second.