Quote from: franky1 on Today at 03:22:43 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on December 04, 2020, 03:11:29 AM

I've been watching right-wing media lately and found this theory that "people died with covid, not because of covid."
They said the elderly would die naturally (because of old age), so when you hear that many older people died because of covid, you should ask: is it really because of Covid? How can you prove that they died because of covid, not because of, well, the time is up?

if elderly people before getting covid. had a diagnoses that they had 5-10 years left if they continue as they are. and then suddenly they died within 3 weeks. then obviously something is up
then when looking at what the attributary cause of the sudden change was. where it was not a fall down the stairs, nor a car accident. but getting sick from covid that overwhelmed their body.. then guess what covid overwhelmed their body causing their death.
if they would have lived another 5-10 years if they didnt get covid. then its hard to ignore covid as the cause

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its like someone with osteoporosis(weak bones) where any hard impact will cause death.
if someone threw them down the stairs. the death would be attributed to being thrown down the stairs.
and the person that threw them down the stairs would be investigated as a murderer

it wouldnt be 'death by natural causes'

Notice that all of this is judgment calls. We don't have the technology available to determine exactly, for sure, what anybody died of.

20% Covid, 10% heart disease, 70% hospital operations. I mean, they were in the hospital, weren't they?

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