Why is witcher_sense defending Ratimov hereby?
Perhaps Ratimov can provide us with a translation of that! Of course, he will need to use Google Translate, because:
witcher_sense now loves Google Translate so much, he thinks that it’s fine to spam the English section with Google translations of plagiarised Russian articles?
Good thread. I recommend that everybody following this case should read it, using Google Translate if necessary.
Whereas Ratimov seems not to be even capable of doing translations. He is only using Google Translate, and posting the results. —At least, that is what he now claims, in substantial effect. Anyone who claims that he cannot write in English without Google-translating his own words from Russian, and effectually claims not even to know the meaning of the pronoun “I”, obviously cannot make any translations involving the English language—not to English, and not from English! Right?
For my part, I have always had the highest respect for people from Russia, Ukraine, and other Eastern bloc regions. It is a shame when a few bad apples make the whole barrel smell rotten to some Westerners with limited viewpoints.
I have spoken privately to users here who are from countries so poor, they have family members who make the equivalent of about USD 30 $ per month at full-time jobs. (No joke. Real “third world” places.) For them, even a low-end bounty or signature campaign means significant money. The users to whom I spoke did the best that they could honestly: No cheating, no spamming, no shitposting—just wearing a paid signature while trying to improve their knowledge of Bitcoin, and otherwise to engage with the forum community.
They had to compete against the flood of spammers who would do anything for a merit; and they risked false accusations of cheating in campaigns, simply due to being from very problematic regions. They found that to be quite discouraging.
Yes, true stories. Blended together with some insubstantive details changed, to protect the privacy of people who confided in me.
Hereby, we have the same problem: A generalized version of Gresham’s Law. The bad displaces the good. The result is a state of affairs in which the honest, the truthful ones, are considered the more stupid. It would end in the belief that it is better to have a share in the wrongdoing, than to stand by with empty hands or allow oneself to be wronged.
As I indicated earlier in this thread, I take as a personal affront when, after all of the time and effort I have invested in making original high-quality posts that people merited, I see Ratimov making a forum career of huge copy-paste OPs. Why the hell did I ever waste my time with this forum!?
Or: 🤔 Why don’t I do the same thing? Surely, if I were to make a habit of that, I would soon reach my 3000th merit!
—And why don’t I get paid for it? 🤑 It is by now a sort of an open secret here that I am poor. Isn’t that an unlimited justification, plus a mark of sainthood?
—And why not others? Why doesn’t johnnyUA do the same as Ratimov? Why doesn’t everybody?
Surely, that would make the forum a successful community; and it would do much to advance Bitcoin.
Многие думают, что воспользовавшись гугл-транслейтом можно адекватно передать суть, но им нужно осознать, что перевод - это искусство и тяжелый труд, который нельзя закончить одним нажатием кнопки.
Perhaps Ratimov can provide us with a translation of that! Of course, he will need to use Google Translate, because:
I cannot create completely English texts myself, without auxiliary tools.
witcher_sense now loves Google Translate so much, he thinks that it’s fine to spam the English section with Google translations of plagiarised Russian articles?
The proof is for example the topic where old russian local members (some of them with 2013 reg date) complain about such "translations".
Good thread. I recommend that everybody following this case should read it, using Google Translate if necessary.
So average noob came here without being interested in crypto as a technology, hence he don't know (and don't want to learn) anything valuable about crypto. What he's able to do?
- "fight scams"
- "translate (mostly) useless shit which in any way belongs to the subject"
Sometimes, not often, write a useless (mostly) guides which very often it's just a rewriting of older guides, or the same guides (in terms of meaning) but from other sources. We in our russian local board already have a lot of guides about sending transaction offline, how much priv keys bitcoin has and so on. Sometimes i find myself with feeling that I'm in fucking "Groundhog Day".
- "fight scams"
- "translate (mostly) useless shit which in any way belongs to the subject"
Sometimes, not often, write a useless (mostly) guides which very often it's just a rewriting of older guides, or the same guides (in terms of meaning) but from other sources. We in our russian local board already have a lot of guides about sending transaction offline, how much priv keys bitcoin has and so on. Sometimes i find myself with feeling that I'm in fucking "Groundhog Day".
Whereas Ratimov seems not to be even capable of doing translations. He is only using Google Translate, and posting the results. —At least, that is what he now claims, in substantial effect. Anyone who claims that he cannot write in English without Google-translating his own words from Russian, and effectually claims not even to know the meaning of the pronoun “I”, obviously cannot make any translations involving the English language—not to English, and not from English! Right?
This is sad, not because people from post USSR so bad, [...]
For my part, I have always had the highest respect for people from Russia, Ukraine, and other Eastern bloc regions. It is a shame when a few bad apples make the whole barrel smell rotten to some Westerners with limited viewpoints.
rather it's hard to think about anything except money if your salary is around 200 dollars (I see such "philosophy" every day around me).
I have spoken privately to users here who are from countries so poor, they have family members who make the equivalent of about USD 30 $ per month at full-time jobs. (No joke. Real “third world” places.) For them, even a low-end bounty or signature campaign means significant money. The users to whom I spoke did the best that they could honestly: No cheating, no spamming, no shitposting—just wearing a paid signature while trying to improve their knowledge of Bitcoin, and otherwise to engage with the forum community.
They had to compete against the flood of spammers who would do anything for a merit; and they risked false accusations of cheating in campaigns, simply due to being from very problematic regions. They found that to be quite discouraging.
Yes, true stories. Blended together with some insubstantive details changed, to protect the privacy of people who confided in me.
Hereby, we have the same problem: A generalized version of Gresham’s Law. The bad displaces the good. The result is a state of affairs in which the honest, the truthful ones, are considered the more stupid. It would end in the belief that it is better to have a share in the wrongdoing, than to stand by with empty hands or allow oneself to be wronged.
As I indicated earlier in this thread, I take as a personal affront when, after all of the time and effort I have invested in making original high-quality posts that people merited, I see Ratimov making a forum career of huge copy-paste OPs. Why the hell did I ever waste my time with this forum!?
Or: 🤔 Why don’t I do the same thing? Surely, if I were to make a habit of that, I would soon reach my 3000th merit!
—And why don’t I get paid for it? 🤑 It is by now a sort of an open secret here that I am poor. Isn’t that an unlimited justification, plus a mark of sainthood?
—And why not others? Why doesn’t johnnyUA do the same as Ratimov? Why doesn’t everybody?
Surely, that would make the forum a successful community; and it would do much to advance Bitcoin.