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The suchmoon/nutildah deployment of tag-team Alinsky tactics
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nullius
on 30/01/2021, 04:11:45 UTC
OP, for my part, I suggest that instead of attacking nutildah’s income, you should show more generally that nutildah is untrustworthy and has untrustworthy judgment.  Given that nutildah essentially acts like the lovechild of Timothy Leary and Saul Alinsky, that should be like shooting fish in a barrel.

I have already addressed nutildah’s imitation of Timothy Leary, the LSD evangelist who destroyed the minds of generations of American “intellectuals”.  Now, let us examine Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.

Because book-length “walls of text” are incomprehensible to suchmoon, I will draw a brief summary from the well-known extreme right-wing conspiracy theory site known as “Wikipedia”:

The Rules

  • "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."
  • "Never go outside the expertise of your people."
  • "Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy."
  • "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
  • "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."
  • "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
  • "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."
  • "Keep the pressure on."
  • "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. "
  • "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
  • "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative."
  • "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
  • "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Both nutildah and suchmoon consistently demonstrate the application of these “rules”.  I have only highlighted the ones that are most overtly displayed in this thread.  For example:

I stand corrected. This is much more serious than being married to a doctor. The dream team consisting of a hypertroll, a wordy blowhard, and an account farmer without a doubt has the capacity to make up any stupid shit they want and prove it with circular reasoning and secret sources. Nutildah should be tarred and feathered and forced to listen to Taylor Swift for 3 weeks for the grave crime of having the audacity to offend or otherwise fail to worship the aforementioned dipshits.

Nutildah should be tarred and feathered and forced to listen to Taylor Swift for 3 weeks

Wait a minute... that's my kink! Who told you about that??   Angry

Nutildah should be tarred and feathered and forced to listen to Taylor Swift for 3 weeks

Wait a minute... that's my kink! Who told you about that??   Angry

I can't disclose my sources but they are almost as reliable as Quicksy making shit up.

This is how suchmoon and nutildah deflect and evade my eminently reasonable, fact-oriented discussion.

Quickseller entered this thread to speak up for nutildah’s freedom of speech, despite his obvious and well-founded dislike for nutildah.  His reward:  This whole discussion is suddenly a matter of “Quicksy making shit up” (!).

Quote from: Saul Alinsky
Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.  There is no defense.

In response to a very reasonable question by OP about whether nutildah’s password had been changed, I presented factual evidence, plus some suggestions on how to pursue an investigation.  suchmoon characterizes this as “The dream team consisting of a hypertroll, a wordy blowhard, and an account farmer...”

Quote from: Saul Alinsky
Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

Further analysis is left as an exercise to the reader.



Although I don’t know if either nutildah or suchmoon has actually read Rules for Radicals, and I doubt that either of them is even capable of reading a whole book, the substantial use of its tactics is widely taught in left-wing circles; and their imprint on a discussion is obvious to anyone who is well-informed about them.

To anyone who has a brain and isn’t afraid to use it, people who use such tactics to twist public discourse come across as transparently dishonest, foolish, and childish.  But the above-quoted “Rules” make highly effective propaganda for brainwashing anyone who lacks adequate critical thinking skills.



I entered this thread—actually, I only even found this thread because suchmoon made the following off-topic personal attack in a Politics & Society debate where PrimeNumber7 was thoroughly trouncing nutildah:

An exact, unedited full quotation of suchmoon’s post:

I just need to note what a piece of shit Quicksy is, as if there was any doubt... can't "win" an argument with nutildah here so he slithered to Reputation to bump a ridiculous accusation thread against him. I mean FFS what a fucking nutjob do you have to be if you can't have a political argument without resorting to doxing and fake scam accusations.

Quote from: Quickseller
When nutildah tries to troll me, I will generally ignore him. I would suggest you do the same.

I would suggest to take your own advice, asshole.
Quote from: Saul Alinsky
Keep the pressure on....  Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

Check the context.  Observe how, after PrimeNumber7 used facts and reason to shoot down some of nutildah’s idiocy, suchmoon stepped in to deflect ad hominem with a personal attack that has neither any relevance to the thread, nor any basis in reality.  suchmoon further smeared Quickseller by cherry-picking part of a quote, while removing the <quote> tag’s link attribute so that people could not click through to see that Quickseller was actually defending nutildah’s freedom of expression (albeit not defending nutildah himself).  Of course, suchmoon snipped out anything that PrimeNumber7 had actually said.

I saw that post because, although I am not generally following the forum right now, I occasionally glance through the e-mailed copies of replies in threads where I have posted.  It caught my eye.  Although suchmoon dishonestly avoided linking to this thread in any way, that post tipped me that I should check Reputation for new threads about nutildah.  So, I guess that the tactic backfired there.  Whoops!