Quote from: YOSHIE on October 08, 2021, 12:46:24 PM

Wait, you created an account today and the charges to the Bitvest site are also today, did you lose gambling on the Bitvest site.

Bitvest is already in the category of the oldest gambling site on this forum, so, on what basis did Bitvest deceive you, what wallet was empty, did you lose a bet so that your money was drained in the game.

It's true OP didn't present any evidence--and he should have if posting in this section--but there's already a discussion about Bitvest's hot wallet being periodically empty and lightlord's managerial neglect of his site. I don't know if anyone linked to that thread yet, as I haven't read this thread in its entirety yet.

Quote from: TheEconomists on October 15, 2021, 08:24:24 PM

Hot wallet to be empty in other to deprived players from cashing out instantly is a very bad strategy or scamming attempt and the should be discourage since Bitvest has over the years build good reputation here in the forum.

I agree--gamblers need to be able to cash out when they want to, because what happens if they're not able to? A lot of them will keep gambling until they lose. I can't see into lightlord's head and don't know what he's thinking, but that would be a great way to scam if a gambling site's administrator was of the mind to do so.

Quote from: sikke on October 15, 2021, 10:17:29 AM

Bitvest has been doing this for YEARS. It's not something that has occurred just as a one-off or anything. And not to mention the hot wallet being empty issue that is more important than the signature campaign issue.

If that's true, lightlord should be given negative trust by DT members (I've already done so for the campaign mismanagement). Members can be trusted for years and then suddenly (or gradually) they're not. And when they're not able to be trusted anymore, their trust page should reflect that.

In addition, I really think people should stop participating in the Bitvest campaign, not only because they're promoting a site that's nearly into scam territory but for their own sake. Who knows when the next time lightlord is going to fall ill and be unable to make payments to his campaign participants for 10 weeks or more?