Quote from: Reatim on Today at 04:33:47 AM

Quote from: Slow death on November 27, 2021, 04:51:05 PM

Why didn't all these people have their money? are they cheaters? will also say that it is the same account?

For sure this will be the answer and will be the defense mechanism of their Shilling signature bearer.

"Shill" is incorrect term in this situation.

What would you say about explanation someone you can't blame for being paid by 1xbit? Take a look:

Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 19, 2021, 07:54:03 PM

Quote from: sarvankr on November 19, 2021, 12:22:27 PM

I want sometimes in your life to be scammed , but scammed so much to be pain a lot. ( because you defend scam company for small amount of money, and it is for shame, because people like me lose big money there because of your defending, and shows people it is legal( and it is total illegal website)
Here are proofs of the security ;

https://imgur.com/P9igFcI |||||| Email I sent to 1xbit security!, with the pictures attached of the bet I placed, with the actual set behind my bet, and clearly shows that SET IS NOT FINISHED, and it is not already known result. But seems they dont want to pay win games, and if you win some games they will make your bet as refund, and they want to lose your ALL MONEY!

https://imgur.com/QfFfTcv |||||| Received email from the lie scam security that it is already known result ( I think they not even oppen my pictures attached, it is only bot replay, and not even support any people there, they only replay already known result or something like that, and you will never be paid)

After this, I sent many emails, showing the picture that clearly shows my bet is regular, and set is not finished, but they stopped responding, so that seems it is bot replay only once, and they not even oppening any proofs, and seems it is total scam, because i lost 4 games in a row and they never make any of my lost games as refund, and when I win only ONE game they make refund and also blocked my account after that win, so after several hours to be able to login and to see my bet is 1 odd refund. Total joke of company who not allow you to win any money there!

It's pretty well known that live Table Tennis betting has been a weak spot when it comes to players exploiting bad lines from online books. There are tons of matches, the quality of coverage is poor, and the pace is very fast with new lines after every point which can happen as fast as every 10-15 seconds. If a player can find a live stream or update source just a few seconds ahead of the Casino, they can place wagers that they know have already won.

With that in mind, lets look at the time line of facts this guy has shared so far.

Nov 14th he signs up for 1xbit, makes two deposits for 500 and 890 USDT and places 5 bets, all of which are settled within the same hour.

He loses 490 on a soccer match and then loses 3 Tennis bets for 20, 30 and 25 USDT before the bet in question here:

Table Tennis: Fedorov vs Pinkovsky, while the first set was being played he bet 680 USDT that Pinkovsky would win by more than 3.5 points.

From his screen shot we can see that 1xBit had the live score as 7-10

In table tennis you play to 11, and you have to win by 2, which means he was essentially betting on the outcome of a single point. If Pinkovsky won the point, he would win the set by 4 points. If he lost the point, it would be impossible for him to win the set by more than the 3.5 point handicap.

This situation is exactly what it would look like if the bettor had access to a live feed just a few seconds ahead of the sportsbook.

Turns out Pinkovsky won the point. They voided the bet. And the next day he created a new bitcointalk account to post in this thread.

I don't think it's ok for any book to regularly put themselves in this situation. If their tech can't keep up with all the table tennis lines in real time, they shouldn't offer action. Or at the very least there needs to be a third party archiving all the action with time stamps so that there's proof one way or the other. Eventually, innocent bettors will get caught up in the cat and mouse game between the house and players taking advantage of them.

This situation looks pretty clear to me though. I think sarvankr made that live bet because he knew what the outcome would be and now he's playing us for fools pretending that he didn't.

Take a look at another example:

Quote from: toptipsport on November 22, 2021, 09:32:25 PM

Quote from: Erdogan on November 22, 2021, 09:19:05 PM

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I am reading your posts, and I cannot believe that peoople like you still exist on this planet.
I come here googled, after 1xbit conofiscated my all wins as void, and the lost one, never voided. This is how they works: if you win, you banned void and never get your money. If you lose, they allow to bet.
I have read many oppened topicks this days, and seems this is very very big scam of website 1xbit.com, and that is very illegal what they are doing. I will write you my case, and wrote to support, telling me that i known the result of all my wins!? Known result of 5 MY GAMES LIVE? Come on, this is big thief's.

VOID MY ALL WIN BETS 5:

https://postimg.cc/4KRDZPnj
https://postimg.cc/XGVtBvf8

https://postimg.cc/fJ6FjC7k

I have photo all my bets before I did the bet before win, and after win, so you cannot tell me that I known result of the games, as you said, this is proof of the world, I sent you this all pictures to you, but your not respond will see the whole internet, what criminal illegal activites you are doing on your website. If someone win, you broke the account, mark as void all win games, and not allow anymore to bet. Illegal website, take care people, never deposit here money.

ALl my pictures before they win so I never known the result of the FREAKING 5 GAMES!!!!!
How can anyone know result of 5 games in a row LIVE bets? This is no sense. You are illegal.
Anyway, where is your licence for the website?YES you dont have ,because licence advisor never will give you any licence for this illegal activities!

Bets staket, before win:
https://postimg.cc/w1XW5pTb
https://postimg.cc/njjBk4Gc
https://postimg.cc/xNVJ3Wdt

And here answer:

Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 22, 2021, 09:45:51 PM

Quote from: toptipsport on November 22, 2021, 09:32:25 PM

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I looked at all of your evidence and I think you knew the result of the bet that was voided before you placed it.

These are just two examples. I am sure that more scammers will be exposed soon.