Quote from: Arriemoller on Today at 04:53:06 PM

You seem to forget that Russia started this and Europe is mearly responding.

A very debatable statement I will abstain from expressing my opinion about. There are good arguments for both sides and I can simply not call the United States or Europe innocent either. I keep hearing that Russia is the ONLY aggressor and this is definitely biased.

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 06:28:19 PM

You've fallen into the trap of false equivalence.

Putin's regime attacked (..) lied (..) threatened (..) persecutes (..) beats up (..) arrests (..)

Ukrainian government possibly lied about their losses in the war.

I have specifically highlighted this part of your answer and removed the rest. The remaining part of your message is the reason I will abstain from expressing my opinion about your reply. I will only have two things to comment. The way I see it is, the difference between what Putin has done and what Ukraine and their supportive countries have done is that one of them does things directly with immediately felt effects while the other seems to do the same things in a more silent, indirect, suppressive manner that makes them look innocent and like a savior to the rest of the world.

I get what you mean about Whataboutism, but does this really apply to what I have said? My examples have been from the same war. I gave multiple examples about the way Russia's actions are seen versus when Ukraine does the same. It is literally Russia being condemned for everything they do but when the United States or any European country does it, it is cheered and supported. Is this really Whataboutism?

Quote from: DaRude on Today at 04:16:58 PM

But be careful of the next step, just because you open your eyes and get disillusioned with what you were fed, doesn't automatically make the other side right. Critical thinking must be consistent and applied to both sides.

Definitely! I am just fed up with not even being ALLOWED to see and hear what Russia says. Immediately discarding an argument and calling it bull shit is one thing I do not do. I rather listen to every one and see what ultimately makes sense the most. But shutting down anything pro Russia or even neutral opinions while glorifying everything Ukraine does and calling it censorship and totalitarianism when the opposite happens seems fishy to me.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 06:40:18 PM

I had been internally debating whether to send you more than one merit for your well thought out post - and part of my dilemma involved your not even mentioning bitcoin, therein... and for sure, there were several spots in which you could have mentioned it.. . Could you not just slip it in there.. just for funzies? Would have been nice to know how bitcoin potentially were to fit within all of that eloquent rantening. Call me a whiner, if you must... Cry

Seems like I totally missed doing so. So much informational overload I did not even know where to start from.

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