Quote from: suchmoon on May 18, 2022, 10:59:56 PM

Quote from: DaRude on May 18, 2022, 09:00:53 PM

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You may want to clean the foam off your mouth.

I'm not trying to convince you one way or another. You clearly have a bias here that seems to be rooted in Soviet/Russian history books, where only nazis committed atrocities, whereas soviets were the liberators and anyone who fought against soviets was automatically a nazi.

For example, just in this war Russian invaders killed thousands of civilians in Ukraine. I'm gonna guess that you will not call every pro-Russian collaborator in the occupied territories a criminal who killed thousands of civilians. Am I right? "Litmus test" for you.

Quote from: suchmoon on May 18, 2022, 11:27:41 PM

Ukraine: names a street after Bandera.

Russia: puts this guy into government positions...

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Rogozin

Dmitry Olegovich Rogozin (Russian: Дми́тpий Oлéгoвич Poгóзин; born 21 December 1963) is a Russian politician who has been Director General of Roscosmos since 2018. He was previously Deputy Prime Minister of Russia in charge of the defense industry from 2011 to 2018, and Russia's ambassador to NATO from 2008 to 2011.

Quote from: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-racist/russian-ultra-nationalists-rally-as-police-watch-idUSL2851145120070128

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian ultra-nationalists on Sunday chanted “Glory to Russia!” and waved banners reading “Jewish fascism! There is nothing scarier!” in a sanctioned rally condemned by human rights campaigners as racist.

About 200 activists and skinheads in black leather jackets and heavy boots gave Nazi-style salutes as organizers yelled nationalist slogans from a makeshift stage at one of Moscow’s central squares.

“Comrades! We are here to protect the people of Russia. This is our last frontier,” Dmitry Rogozin, a nationalist politician, told a cheering crowd as dozens of riot police looked on. Similar protests were held in St Petersburg and other cities.

Which one of these countries claims to be "denazifying" the other? Yep.

Russian propaganda is one huge projector.

It scares me that you reached your pinnacle of cringe right on this topic. Person who yells WHATABOUTISM when i even slightly hint at a comparison (not a main rebuttal), blatantly doesn't answer a single direct question and just start discussing other people Huh

surely the irony cannot be lost here

If US, Russia Germany and Israel (and the rest of the world for that matter, if there's a single country that doesn't condemn Bandera let me know) all condemn a murderer and you're naming streets after him, you just might be on the wrong side of history. Might be a good wake up call to review your worldview, instead of claiming that the world has a bias against you.

Osama bin Laden was also fighting Soviets before murdering innocent people (and was also sponsored by CIA), does that make him a controversial figure in your eyes as well? How about Osama bin Laden Avenue in Kyiv, it can run directly parallel to Stepana Bandery Avenue.

You seem to be confused (or rather trying your hardest to mislead) between being a nationalist and Bandera actively massacring innocent people.

Quote from: Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia

Many of the Polish victims regardless of age or gender were tortured before being killed; some of the methods included rape, dismemberment or immolation, among others. The UPA's actions resulted in between 50,000 and 100,000 deaths...the killings were directly linked to the policies of Stepan Bandera's faction of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN-B) and its military arm, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, whose goal as specified at the Second Conference of the OUN-B on 17–23 February 1943 (March 1943 in some sources) was to purge all non-Ukrainians from the future Ukrainian state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

Controversial figure, right, something all of us could've done, just a silly mistake perhaps wouldn't mind having an address on his street? Roll Eyes

this is beyond atrocious!