Quote from: TwitchySeal on Today at 04:21:43 AM

Quote from: DaRude on Today at 03:46:17 AM

Offer Taiwan to join NATO, or start sending weapons to them (you know for defense of course), sit back and watch the fireworks, make sure to prepare "but China invaded Taiwan, Taiwan didn't invade China" statements. Start a war and get the freedom spreader support, two birds with one stone!

Edit: Mind you i'm not a fan of repressive China by any stretch of imagination, but at what point people will start seeing that such approaches should in no way be supported (even if they're sold to the public as being done for all of the right reasons)!

The US has been sending weapons to Taiwan for almost 50 years.

Some highlights from the past couple years:

40 155mm M109A6 Paladin Medium Self-Propelled Howitzer System and related equipment. ($750 million)

100 Harpoon Coastal Defense Systems (HCDS) consisting of up to four hundred 400 RGM-84L-4 Harpoon Block II Surface Launched Missiles; and four 4 RTM-84L-4 Harpoon Block II Exercise Missiles. Also included are four hundred and eleven 411 containers, 100 Harpoon Coastal Defense System Launcher Transporter Units, 25 radar trucks, spare and repair parts, support and test equipment. ($2.3 billion)

135 AGM-84H standoff land attack missile expanded response (SLAM-ER) missiles, 4 ATM-84H SLAM-ER telemetry missiles, and 12 CATM-84H captive air training missiles (CATM), including 151 containers, spare parts, support and test equipment, operator manuals, technical documentation, training. ($1 billion)

108 M1A2T main battle tanks, 14 M88 recovery vehicles, 16 M1070A1 transporters, 16 M1000 trailers, ammunition. ($2 billion)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_arms_sales_to_Taiwan

Interesting, all that while officially agreeing in spirit that Taiwan was part of China. I was not aware of the scale! Things seem to be primed there, just needs a spark.

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 04:32:31 AM

Quote from: DaRude on Today at 03:46:17 AM

Offer Taiwan to join NATO, or start sending weapons to them (you know for defense of course), sit back and watch the fireworks, make sure to prepare "but China invaded Taiwan, Taiwan didn't invade China" statements. Start a war and get the freedom spreader support, two birds with one stone!

Edit: Mind you i'm not a fan of repressive China by any stretch of imagination, but at what point people will start seeing that such approaches should in no way be supported (even if they're sold to the public as being done for all of the right reasons)!

I can tell how much you're concerned about Taiwan by all the threads you've started on the topic, and even that is not enough since you need to derail this one.

Meanwhile in the real world, Russian nazis have outdone themselves again. Well, they did it a month ago, I just came across it now:

Quote from: https://twitter.com/kemal_115/status/1519257689469161478

The Russian Ministry of Defense has shared footage of recently killed Ukrainian troops.

The footage shows one body moved around and filmed from multiple angles in multiple positions, to inflate the perceived number of killed Ukrainian soldiers for propaganda purposes.

Your propaganda is getting tiresome, I'll let others to engage that or counter with Russian propaganda, you guys seem to enjoy slinging that at each other.

I just also realized that there were Normandy format meeting in Berlin on February 11, 2022. Seems like Russia was told to pretty much fuck off back then. Putin recognized the separatist republics 10 days later on 21st Feb. Guess the players were seated and the cards were dealt back then, only thing left was to play out each of their hands