Quote from: af_newbie on September 15, 2022, 07:39:05 AM

Quote from: DaRude on September 15, 2022, 04:14:13 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on September 14, 2022, 03:23:21 AM

No fallacy. He meant to say that most Russians revere the Soviet Union and its leaders despite the fact that the Soviet leaders were genocidal maniacs, including the current one.

How can you support the prison of nations, the Soviet Union, or its current reincarnation, the 'Russian' Federation is beyond me.

The 'Russian Federation', is not exactly Russian, and it is not a federation. More like a Russian empire where non-Slavic 'Russians'
are second-class citizens, their populations are systematically destroyed and Russified.

Take down Stalin/Soviet monuments across Russia, then we'll talk. Until then, иди нa xyй co cвoeй PФ.

Your dim-witted reply (however unintentional) brings up a great point, people are quick to call for Putin to step down, be removed, assassinated etc... and they just seem to assume through their ignorance, and are fed by propaganda that the alternative would be some green liberal non-existent party. But as you pointed out yourself there are still a ton of Russians that still revere the Soviet Union, and besides some puppet parties, the next real alternative is a communist party. No one ever mentions how Putin is the centrist as the alternative might very well be a communist party. Who wins then??

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“It’s a war, not a special operation. We need a general mobilization,” said Gennady Andreyevich Zyuganov, the leader of the Communist Party

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putins-entourage-demands-full-mobilization-for-the-war-in-ukraine/ar-AA11POYh

Russians need a color revolution to eliminate all the unhinged Soviet sympathizers.

Dugin or Medvedev types would start a nuclear war way back when they failed to take Kyiv.

I agree with you that Putin is a moderate genocidal maniac. I think he is delusional in his assessment of the situation
and the pandora box that he unleashed. He still believes that this war was not a mistake. He still feels that he is doing
great things for mother Russia. He probably thinks that he can secure a land bridge to Crimea and the whole world will walk away.

If I were him, I would ask myself this: "and then what?"

This thing will end in a complete breakup of Russia, with or without a nuclear winter.

PS. Russia is full of psychopaths who need to be eliminated or heavily medicated, sooner or later.

I detect some cognitive disorder, do you read what you type? Even if we try to follow your logic, you do realize that "most" means over 50% right? And then you call for a revolution? So what do you think happens during revolutions where majority supports "genocidal maniacs" as you claim? C'mon count with me, you can do it 2+2 = Huh

Or are your mass murdering tendencies implying that you're planning on mass murdering half of Russia now?

Quote from: johhnyUA on September 15, 2022, 07:46:55 AM

Quote from: Branko on September 14, 2022, 08:17:12 PM

Actually its stopping...USA now need YEARS to restock systems they sent to Ukraine.
Obviously they didn't expect Russia to be so effective in destroying them

https://www.ft.com/content/d413576c-c4d5-4ca6-9050-58f3f8dc3c00

From your link:
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In May, when Washington ordered 1,300 Stinger anti-air missiles to replace those sent to Ukraine, the chief executive of Raytheon, the defence company that makes them, replied: “It’s going to take us a little bit of time.”
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So, I assume you mean "Russia to be so effective destroying anti-air missiles with it's own helicopters and jets" Grin

And yeah, typical manipulation from you: In your article there no word about destroying, only words that EU has small amount of weapons, so when they sent something to Ukraine, they need a lot of time to restock it.

This is main point of the article:
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The Ukraine war has exposed the skimpiness of western defence stockpiles — especially of unglamorous but crucial supplies such as artillery shells that have been the mainstay of fighting. Lack of production capacity, labour shortages and supply chain snafus — especially computer chips — mean long lead times to replenish them.
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So yeah, in near future after EU will start normal amount of military production, you ll see how russian "regrouping" from Belgorod Grin

Especially since russian in unable to destroy any of this western systems (as i remember, they destroyed frew m777 and few m109)

Yep, here it is:
- 9 155mm M777A2 howitzer:
2 155mm M109A3GN: (1, damaged) (2, damaged)
1 155mm AHS Krab: (1, destroyed)

Bad result for the "second world's army"

Quote from: DaRude on September 15, 2022, 04:14:13 AM

You do realize that it's possible to defend a country without calling for mass murders of all collaborators (in a country without capital punishment) right? In fact, thankfully, I don't see anyone besides af_newbie calling for that.

Collaborators should be punished. Some with sentence in prison, some with bullets in their heads.

A lot of this collaborators hand over ukrainian activists, ato soldiers, government workers and so on on occupied territories. All those people were killed by russians (I have a lot of cases).

And now, some redneck idiot like you is trying to tell us that we need to left collaborators in peace. No, this is my answer to you. They will pay for what they've done

Ohh i'm a redneck now? This is a personal first Grin

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Over the past week, Shahed-136 delta-wing drones, repainted in Russian colors and rebranded as Geranium 2, started appearing over Ukrainian armor and artillery positions in the northeastern Kharkiv region, said Col. Rodion Kulagin, commander of artillery of Ukraine’s 92nd Mechanized Brigade.

In his brigade’s operational area alone, the Iranian drones—which usually fly in pairs and then slam into their targets—have destroyed two 152-mm self-propelled howitzers, two 122-mm self-propelled howitzers, as well as two BTR armored infantry vehicles, he said.

Before the current wide-scale use of the Shaheds, Russia carried out a test last month, striking a U.S.-supplied M777 155-mm towed howitzer with the drone, Col. Kulagin said. Another Iranian drone malfunctioned and was recovered, he said.
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Scott Crino, founder and chief executive of Red Six Solutions LLC, a strategic consulting firm, said the Shahed-136 could provide Russia with a “potent counterweight” to the high-tech weapons systems, such as Himars missile launchers, that the U.S. has provided to Ukraine.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias-use-of-iranian-kamikaze-drones-creates-new-dangers-for-ukrainian-troops-11663415140

That's over only one week in a single brigade (and in self admission)! We can be adults and use our critical thinking to draw some conclusions from bits and pieces that leak to mass media, or we can continue our propaganda by throwing some BS sites claiming minimal losses at each other US ammunition stockpiles being depleted by deliveries to Ukraine and EU is running low on weapons