Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 01:06:59 PM

Quote from: DaRude on Today at 01:27:16 AM

Yep just because you claim that all blackmail potential has been exhausted (during the third lowest demand month) we don't have any critical thinking and just totally believe you!
(26 September 2022) Germans call for Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline opening now that there's nothing to open tell me again how that's a benefit to Russia? I'm not even talking about hundreds of millions of m^2 of gas Russia lost there

NS2 was dead already. "Germans call for [...] opening" is bullshit, a few people protesting won't make that happen.

Let's say Putin decided to shut NS1 off in January. Would that change Germany's policies towards Ukraine or Russia? There is no indication that it would. That's what I mean by exhausted blackmail potential.

As for lost gas and whatnot... you're assuming that Putin is a rational actor, which he clearly is not. If he cared about Russia's economy he wouldn't have invaded Ukraine, or would have retreated when the crushing sanctions became evident. He will happily run the country into the ground to feed his imperial ego. Blowing up a pipeline, or like Russian propagandists now propose - blowing up gas tankers, underwater fiber cables, etc - to harm the "enemy" is small potatoes compared to the overall destructiveness of the regime, so your feigned outrage as to why we would even think that Russia could do this makes no sense.

"no indication that it would" Cheesy

You know the easiest way to figure out when someone is pushing propaganda or just making things up? Just replace the subject to something from the other side and see if such claim can still be made.
We can almost get unlimited shit slinger generator to confuse dumb followers or masses without any critical thinking, or just create a low effort bot

Let's give it a try:

Putin = Biden/Ursula von der Leyen
shut NS1 off = any sanction against Russia

Let's say ~~Putin~~ Biden decided to ~~shut NS1 off~~ put more sanction on RU banks in January. Would that change ~~Germany's~~ Russias policies towards Ukraine or ~~Russia~~ USA? There is no indication that it would. That's what I mean by exhausted blackmail potential.
Let's say ~~Putin~~ Ursula decided to ~~shut NS1 off~~ cap prices on RU gas in January. Would that change ~~Germany's~~ Russias policies towards Ukraine or ~~Russia~~ EU? There is no indication that it would. That's what I mean by exhausted blackmail potential.