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Im still doubt if chelsea can win the match against wolves easily caused by the problem is chelsea was always feeling so difficult against the mediocre club like that, i meant we must see the fact. Once chelsea meets a low tier club and the result will always be draw. i don't know what's wrong with this club but the problem is chelsea feesl so difficult to make goals even there would be so many chances happening for the players. that's why i kinda feel if chelsea will have a tough game in this match and the club will not win with huge score against wolves

Seem like the same to me, Chelsea typically is the same as MU, they will play hard when meeting the stronger club, but when meeting mediocre clubs like Wolves they don't have motivated to win. I see Chelsea is going on fire, It was easy to beat CP and West Ham, and the last one is Milan. I still hope Chelsea is one of the 4th top premier leagues, but, because is transforming from a new coach, they still need much time to adaption. And, tonight they will be playing hard and win at least with 1 different goal.

Well, I think you have made one of the best analogies, for me the situation Chelsea is going through is not as critical as the one Man Unite is going through, at least at Chelsea the technical director is very committed to the club and his team. in general he does not disrespect his players and above all he does not leave the stars on the bench without taking advantage of them, I think that is commitment, between Chelsea and Man United I think he has more opportunity for growth and short- The recovery period is Chelsea, I see Man United far below their level and that is because of the manager, there is no one else to blame, and they react by firing him.

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Good luck, I'm contradicting with you, at the moment, as I see MU is going to be more consistent right now, they never lost in the last 4 match, especially in the Europa League. I know the Spurs performance is better, but at this time MU doesn't want to be ashamed anymore, this is the new spirit that was created by Ten Hag, Ronaldo most likely as a starter and created the goal, he will keep the memory hat trick when meet The spurs a year ago.

It would be strange if United lost to Omonia, and by the way, these two victories over Omonia were given with great effort, so I would evaluate this result not as a signal of United's strength, but rather the opposite. Statistically Tottenham looks much better than United, the only "argument" in favor of United is that they beat Arsenal and Tottenham lost to Arsenal.

Any team can bring up a single game and the motivation of every team is sky high when they are playing against the leader of the rankings.That I believe to have been the case for United while I know that Tottenham has been more consistent in getting points this season.The odd of 2.42 is very inviting for Manchester United but the fact that is a very good odd is not there without reason,the reason to be they are playing one of the best teams of the league during this season and last time around they could not beat Newcastle so what makes you think they will beat Tottenham?

I know their habit exactly, MU will play serious if meet a strong team. In fact, Tottenham become a strong team and have chance to the tittle, MU can see that Spurs is top class team on premier league, They have to win whatever the risk, MU have spirit to win when against strong team especially to make fans happy.

I hope ronaldo doesn't sulk, this is the strategy which must be beyond the expectations of the opponent.

The pain United fans have experienced is unbearable, so they deserve happiness. At some point, Tottenham wished they had never played against this Manchester United team. From the beginning to the end, they were outclassed. There was no breathing space given to them by United. The omission of Cristiano against Tottenham can be understood if it were a winning strategy by the coach.The omission of Cristiano against Tottenham can be understood if it were a winning strategy by the coach.

Yes, I cannot deny that a victory is a victory, but at the same time I can attest that Man United did very well, I did not see an explosive Kane, they came to attack without ideas, they ran and did everything well but last I don't know what happened, suddenly everything went wrong, I didn't see Kane who should have put the team on his shoulders well, I saw him tired and incapable, the Ten Hag thing continues to be the worst for me, I don't conceive that a technical director has a star on the bench, at least they put in Casemiro who almost scored the goal, he was very close, but it didn't happen, what I can conclude is that Man United do well, but they did better without that technician.

Well I find this article very interesting, especially for Chelsea fans:

Chelsea legend Gianfranco Zola insists 'you CANNOT rule out' the Blues in the Premier League title race after making it seven games unbeaten under new boss Graham Potter in Brentford draw

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Gianfranco Zola still believes Chelsea are in Premier League title race this season
The Blues currently sit fourth in the league table after the opening 10 matches
Graham Potter's side are now seven games unbeaten after draw with Brentford

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The former striker, who picked up 59 goals and 42 assists during 229 appearances for Chelsea, also praised it as a good point despite the expectation being on the Blues to seal a victory.

‘Chelsea’s a big team and they are close to the top of the table so you may say playing Brentford they need to win, so a draw is not a good result.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11334341/Gianfranco-Zola-insists-rule-Chelsea-Premier-League-title-race.html

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Leaving the field before the game ends tells a lot of story about Ronaldo to be fair. I agree with most people that he is still a good player, or at least good enough to be considered playing in United. yeah if he was in another club, like lets say City, or PSG, then it is obvious that he wouldn't be considered for striker position because there are better players there. But who do United have that could be considered better? I would say him leaving the field is saying it clearly "either use me, or let me go" and thats it, if they could let him go, this guy could still find a good place for himself. This is the guy with 800+ goals in his career, you can't just bench him, its not acceptable.

Lets not be bias about the situation, I agree that no player is bigger than the club and I believe that message is now clear to everyone including Ronaldo knows that by now but I also think the club is pushing it too far. Ronaldo is a player who loves to play at the beginning of the season we were told he was sitting on the bench as a punishment for not meeting up with the preseason games but until now he's still struggling to get games which is not fair.

^^ The problem is Manchester United is getting the results without him. And obviously the fans and Manchester United as a club are entitled to ask for successful results from Ten Hag. They are not allowed to ask why he did not let Cristiano Ronaldo play. So I think one could argue that the coach is doing his job.

But at the same time, it is also true that whatever is happening to Cristiano Ronaldo at Manchester United is very disrespectful. Yes, he is old but not obsolete. Cristiano Ronaldo can still play very well. It was obviously not right what he did leaving the field early. And I think we all knew that after this, no one is going to talk about the good result from Manchester United against a very decent team. Instead, everyone is excited to talk about Cristiano Ronaldo doing such a thing.

His disrespect for the club has now been punished, but the controversy will continue as always. In this situation, everyone is in an awkward position since Erick has no special respect for Cristiano. Following Cristiano Ronaldo's early departure from Manchester United's first-team squad, Manchester United released him from his contract in January. Neither I nor anyone else can predict the future. So relax, until the time comes. My hope is that he ends up being a legend and an excellent human being.

For me the issue of CR7 is something that is very controversial, on the one hand we have a coach who I don't know how he continues in one of the best teams in the world, that what he is achieving is some victories with luck and with teams that have come of being in a very bad streak, however it is as you say, if they don't want CR7 why didn't they let him go? Why does Ten Hag have a caprocho that has nothing to do with him? what I can think and that is noticeable from miles away is the possible anger that the tencio director may have towards the Portuguese, that team is for being among the first in the ranking, I still cannot say that they have won many games only under Ten's address.