Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 05:06:08 PM

Quote from: DaRude on Today at 04:49:28 PM

I'm sure by "artillery fire control" what the general really meant was "to secure and provide safety for" and it will accelerate withdrawal because Russians will just piss their pants and run away from such provided safety to the damn! Right? I need this, please lie to me some more!

Is there a point you're trying to make or do you just need to vent your ura-patriotism after Putin's speech?

Are Russians not going to run from Kherson?

The point is to underline the absurdity of the claims, not sure where you're seeing ura-patriotism!?! What is pretty certain that if damn is blown while over 50% of Kherson is under RU control, then Orcs just like to shoot at themselves, if it's blown when UA takes over 50% then RU are terrorists. I'm just glad that Russians are at least evacuating civilians! Ukraine's window of opportunity is shrinking, winter is coming it'll take away mobility and cover which Ukraine managed to greatly use to its advantage. Ukraine needs to throw in all it got before that, is it enough to take Kherson? i have no idea (i didn't even think UA could take all that land by Kharkiv), do you consider it or Bakhmut a decisive battle? does it really matter outside of posturing and these forum bickering? What interests me more are concrete indicators of the conflict turning one way or the other. Let me ask you this, what are some major indicators for you that Ukraine might be loosing? (Or it's just inconceivable for you?) Here's what i'm looking at
Elections in US Watch as support for funding Ukraine erodes among Republicans
GBP, EUR, JPY, RUB, USD rates.
Indicators of Belarus joining the conflict opening new front
New committed aid to Ukraine UA believes that it's fighting for EU, will EU provide electricity to Ukraine?
Will new UK prime minister hold out longer than a head of lettuce?