Quote from: iwtwe on April 10, 2014, 10:15:58 PM

Quote from: CoinThinker on April 09, 2014, 09:53:59 AM

Hey, I have no clue what you are talking about. What rules have changed since you have made a deposit?

There was absolutely no rule changes during the round. Only thing I have done is that at some point I raised the deposit amount, but that was 2-3 days ago, so I guess that's not what you are talking about.

Ps. strangely I don't even know you btw... probably you haven't made a single deposit, your 1 single post with a new user created on bitcointalk just for this purpose doesn't make you a trusted source of information.

I was wrong about the rule change. I got mixed up so that's on me and I apologize.

I actually have made deposits and lost hundreds of dollars.

Honestly this current system would only work if there were at least 25% of every 100 members making deposits. I'm not talking about 100 deposits, I'm talking about the number of members needed to keep depositing to prevent timeout. There simply aren't enough people actively depositing to have a round timeout after 24 hours. I only count 10 unique deposit addresses on this current round...For example: if you have the current unique 10 depositors and have 100 members registered, that means only 10% of people are actually using the system. With that number of people having rounds time out after 24 hours is just bullshit. You get one guy that deposits .5 twice and then one guy comes behind and deposits .1 then no new payments....the guy who put 1 btc in is screwed. The max/min ratio is the problem. Let me put it this way: if someone who understands how this works only has .1 btc to put in and sees that current payouts require 1 bitcoin in deposits to complete that means they're just not going to bother depositing. The maximum depositors are hurt by the minimum depositors and the minimum depositors are hurt by the maximum depositors. The higher the gap between MIN/MAX deposits the more screwed up the system gets. If they were more even you'd have more deposits because the risk for people using it would be lower. Even out the min/max and prolong the round timeout until more people get involved.

Yes, you have good points here... however, just to have a better overview:
- at this moment they are a total of 77 registered users ONLY; among these lots registered for the LEAF (which I started with, but then LEAF died); then some people registered for DOGE, which was the second coin introduced, and some for BTC. From the registered people 18 have taken a BTC deposit address now, and if you count 10 people, then that is the number of people who deposited...

- The ratio is not to high I think... it is 1 to 7.5. I have seen Ponzis (for example eternal), where the ratio was something like 1 to 75 and so on. Dogeponzi ratio is 1 to 200... compared to any other ponzi mine is the smallest.

The system is good, works automated, rules are clear, everything is fine.

So I guess that the root of the problem can be:
1. The fact that you have to register... this scares away many people, because they don't read that this is in their best interest, and it's making the system safe, not to talk about that the registration is requiring only an email and a password (if you're sure you don't forget your password, you can enter any email address)

2. The fact that people don't read the rules, don't take time to understand the guarantee fund, the way it increase, etc... because if they would, then they would deposit non-stop, because at a given point the guarantee fund will be big enough to cover a very large part of the deposit, making the risk to be smaller.

3. They were so many ponzis were the op just shut down the site with no warning, disappeared, etc. that they don't dare anymore to try another one

4. Of course I need more players... I am buying ads from my own pocket, and the numbers are slowly increasing.

Cheers.