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Do you think there were no missiles at all, and the CNN, citing Yuriy Ignat, a representative of the Ukrainian Air Force command, published a lie? Grin

Sorry, I didn't realize this attack from 3 weeks ago is the one that supposedly hit the bunker. Ok, so poor generals didn't get as many yachts as usual, but where is the 400ft crater? Surely there must be satellite pictures from the glorious Russian Aerospace Forces?

Yep, we're talking about a massive missile attack three weeks ago. About the fact that as a result of the strike a buried bunker with NATO officers was hit, I learned from a message in a Greek source at the link above. Ukrainian and Russian sources limited themselves to reports that there was a missile strike, without much detail.

Seems like you got duped again.

Did Russian Kinzhal Missile Take Out 'NATO Command Center' in Ukraine?

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"Greek media: dozens of NATO officers are buried in a secret bunker destroyed by "Daggers" in Ukraine. According to the Greek portal Pronews, received by the editors from "American sources," another post said.

Most of the posts on Twitter and Telegram appeared to base the claim on one of two sources: An obscure Greek news website ProNews and an outlet called "The Intel Drop." The trustworthiness of both sources is highly questionable, however.

TheIntelDrop describes itself as "an unaligned news source for the intelligence and financial community," but the awkward wording, basic grammar mistakes ("oversite") and strange terminology, such as "black propaganda", raise suspicions, indicating that it likely was not written by a native English speaker.

There is also no information about the news outlet's background or ownership. All of the website affiliation data has been "redacted for privacy," according to domain checker WhoIS.

It lists an American conspiracy theorist Gordon Duff among its board members; Duff was previously the chairman of "Veterans Today", a fringe conspiracy and anti-Semitic outlet. Duff himself said "about 30% of what's written on Veterans Today, is patently false."

TheIntelDrop's report cites a number of unverified Twitter accounts and the ProNews article as its source for the claim.

ProNews did indeed publish such an article, though references to it misleadingly suggest this was a recent development, whereas the article was in fact published earlier this month, on March 12.

Back then the article was picked up and shared by pro-Russian users, including one claiming "NATO command and control HQ in #Kiev was struck by Kinzhal hypersonic missiles, many #Pentagon top officials perish in this strike."

However, the Greek website, which has a history of publishing sensationalist and misleading material, such as one article claiming that Florida is seceding from the United States, offers very little in the way of evidence in the original story about the supposed strike.

"Dozens of dead NATO and Ukrainian officers," the article opens, translated from Greek. "Russian hypersonic Kinzhal missile with a target impact speed of Mach 12 (twelve times the speed of sound) managed to hit the Ukrainian-NATO joint command, control and communications center installed at a depth of 130 meters!"

The author simply states: "The Russians say they have pulled 40 dead from the wreckage of the underground headquarters so far, but most will never be recovered as they were buried by the debris."

No specific sources or outlets are mentioned anywhere in the story, which instead proceeds to quote Ukrainian officials, who make no mention of NATO casualties.

While it is unclear what "Russian" sources ProNews based its reporting on, a large-scale shelling of Ukraine did indeed take place on the night of March 9, 2023, as Newsweek reported at the time.

The attack, which Russia called retaliation for a reported sabotage incident that took place days earlier in Russia's border region of Bryanks, involved a wide array of Russian missiles, including the aforementioned Kinzhals.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-nato-ukraine-command-center-strike-kinzhal-missile-1791805