Quote from: TwitchySeal on June 27, 2023, 03:58:31 PM

Quote from: robbylove on June 27, 2023, 03:19:03 PM

Here’s Why Jack Smith Leaked Audio of Trump Talking to CNN – It’s the Opposite of CNN’s Claimed Pearl Clutching…

You don't know that Jack Smith leaked it. I think it's much more likely it came from someone connected to the rotating clusterfuck that makes up Trumps legal team. But I don't know either, just like you.

Quote from: robbylove on June 27, 2023, 03:19:03 PM

the documents that are claimed to be heard in the audio are nowhere to be found.

Assuming you aren't on Jack Smiths team of investigators, you don't know that.

Quote from: robbylove on June 27, 2023, 03:19:03 PM

the DOJ and FBI never found any “classified” or “super-secret” documents as described in the audio

You don't know that.

Quote from: robbylove on June 27, 2023, 03:19:03 PM

without the documents the audio is inadmissible.

Not true. That's like saying without a body or murder weapon, you can't prove someone is guilty of murder. Each person heard in that recording could provide direct evidence and I would guess at least one of them will be taking the stand. In fact, I would argue that an eye witness that can be heard on the recording corroborates the recording better than physical the physical document. But, wouldn't be surprised if they have the document as well - I don't know though, neither do you.

Quote from: robbylove on June 27, 2023, 03:19:03 PM

You cannot submit evidence in court of a person talking about documents without the documents the audio is supposedly talking about.

Yes you can. And, again, you don't know that they don't have the documents.

Quote from: robbylove on June 27, 2023, 03:19:03 PM

the audio is nothing more than President Trump talking about something the prosecution cannot identify or prove.

The audio proves that Trump was either showing US war plans to a reporter that he knew he did not declassify or that he was lying to a reporter to try and make them believe he was showing them war plans. Either way, what an Asshole.

Again, you don't have access to discovery, and even if you did, we're probably months away from discovery even being complete. So cool your jets on the thinking you know everything about the case because you read a few right wing rags that want you to think they know more than they possibly could.

CBS Report, Mysterious DoD Iran Attack Memo Does Not Exist and Is Not Part of Jack Smith Case Against Trump

I’m not going to say I toldyaso; I’m just smiling.

After a full media cycle of apoplexy and pearl-clutching, which included Andrew Weissmann appearing on MSNBC to declare “It’s the end of Trump,” CBS is now reporting there is no Defense Department memo about attacking Iran – the foundation of the media claims surrounding the leaked audio tapes from Special Counsel Jack Smith.

Worse still, and exactly as CTH previously outlined, despite the claims by CNN about how this audio would be used as the “central element” by the prosecution of Trump, the audio and mysterious memo are not part of the Special Counsel case.

So, why was the transcript of the audio recording used by Jack Smith in the indictment if the audio and nonexistent memo were never going to be used? Because it’s Lawfare, that’s why. Everything, yes including the specific language being deployed (ie “documents containing classification markings“), is hype for public consumption.

(Via CBS) – The Defense Department memo on Iran — at the heart of the now-public audio recording that captured a July 2021 meeting with former President Donald Trump — is not part of the 31 counts of willful retention of national defense information charged in special counsel Jack Smith’s indictment of the former president, a source familiar with the matter confirmed to CBS News.

[…] The document and recording are described in the indictment Smith’s team secured against Trump earlier this month, recounted as an alleged meeting with “a writer, a publisher, and two members of” Trump’s staff, “none of whom possessed a security clearance.” But according to a source familiar with the matter, Trump was not charged with unlawfully holding onto the Iran-related document discussed in the recording.

[…] Multiple sources familiar with the investigation previously told CBS News that defense attorneys were not certain the Iran memo in question was ever recovered and returned to the government. (read more)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-memo-not-among-the-31-records-underlying-charges-in-trump-federal-indictment/

There never was an Iran memo document. President Trump was discussing newspaper reports, “newspapers” and stacks of “papers”, as he originally told Brett Baier. Duh.

Reminder, in an interview with Fox News’ Bret Baier on June 19, Trump said that at the meeting with the book’s publisher, he was not referring to the document itself, but newspaper articles:

“There was no document… That was a massive amount of papers and everything else talking about Iran and other things. And it may have been held up or may not, but that was not a document. I didn’t have a document per se. There was nothing to declassify. These were newspaper stories, magazine stories and articles.”
Watch til the end… very important. There is NO IRAN DOCUMENT! Trump was showing newspaper and magazine articles.

Jack Smith is going to have to produce this document, he can't, and he's scared shitless, so he leaked the audio tapes. WE WILL ALL GET TO SEE SMITH'S DOCUMENTS!…

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/27/cbs-report-mysterious-dod-iran-attack-memo-does-not-exist-and-is-not-part-of-jack-smith-case-against-trump/

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