Quote from: paxmao on Today at 02:32:30 PM

Quote from: Branko on Today at 07:30:28 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on Today at 02:45:24 AM

If I were a Russian living in Crimea or other occupied territories I would start packing NOW.

Crimean Bridge is out of service, AGAIN. LOL.

Instead, crazy Russians seem pissed and volunteer for frontline in even bigger numbers

Story about wounded girl that lost mother and father in attack is as good as FSB could
ask for

Of course Branko, everyone is useful for the mission right?

Quote from: DaRude on Today at 01:54:22 PM

Quote from: Hispo on July 15, 2023, 11:55:02 PM

Quote from: Septex on July 12, 2023, 06:14:49 PM

I don't think the Russia-Ukraine conflict will end easily. Russia maintains war with Ukraine. On the other hand, Russia wants to take some parts of Ukraine for which they are continuing this war. Because if Russia can occupy some part of Ukraine then it is their own gain.

It has become a long term conflict, or at least it seems to becoming one, sadly.
The only thing about it which I would call positive is the fact that Russia alone cannot hold a long term battle against Ukraine alone, for now the Klemlin depends on the support of their biggest ally: The popular Republic of China.

If someone USA convinced or pressured Chine to stop their military and economical aid to Putin, then Russia would have it very difficult to continue their attacks, they already are getting in trouble economically being their cheap offer of energy a sample of it, in my opinion.

Id wish this non-sense stopped right now, if possible...

This caught my eye, think you have fundamental misunderstanding of the conflict, which puts you in a constant state of bewilderment as to why something is (or is not) happening. Your curios mind led you here for answers, but all the local clown "experts" (propagandists) can do, is to overwhelm you with irrelevant micro level information to sway you their way. Any macro questions are discouraged and just covered by "crazy orcs" or nazis, to dissuade any further questions.

Look at US/NATO military bases around China, looks where major military build up is happening outside of Ukraine theater, look at blockade of Cuba that's still going on for 30yrs+ any if anyone really cares for the right of sovereign nations or its people, and current justifications for it. Then ask yourself how long would the commie regime last after the fall of Russia and the sudden onset of democracy cookies (soft power) onto Kazakhstan. Then the question whether the nation that coined such phrases as "death by a thousand cuts" and "If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by" can be convinced or pressured into stopping aid to Russia, should becomes irrelevant. As well as shed some light on why this counteroffensive was so drummed up, how it's really going, what will happen in about 8 weeks, mid September, once weather changes and any maneuvering becomes impossible and we revert back to positional arty scorched earth advances. Might also look into who historically benefits from the winter season.

https://www.reuters.com/world/nato-open-japan-office-enable-indo-pacific-consultation-report-2023-05-03

Nah, CCP government has no more resilience than the USSR did - do you remember or were you busy when it collapsed?

China as any nation has interests and can be pressured and convinced (I think more convinced than pressured) if it is in their interest. China does not have any more attachment to the RF that it would to any other instrument, party, country or organisation.

What I think is that China needs a strong Russia, to balance the US, and a balanced Russia that does threat with Nukes as a system of living (e.g. North Korea). Russia is not helping at all in any of these.

China is relatively organised and is using the opportunity to look like a mediator and a country of peace.

Glad we both agree that China needs a strong Russia, but I never claimed that China has some special attachment to the RF, but instead saying that they're behaving strictly in the interest of their own self-preservation, which is logical. Just not sure how you then do a 180 flip and try to argue that China can be convinced against that?

How many cookies do you think it'd take to turn Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan, Tajikistan against China if Russia falls? A half or they'll do it for free? Willing to speculate how long you think Chinese commie regime would last after Russia falls, and it would be left with North Korea as their only ally?

A party that operates on 30yr+ horizons disregards human life and easily willing to sacrifice decades/generations for some ideology/long term goal, I mean sure, i guess with quantum uncertainty and multiverse technically anything is possible, just good luck convincing people that it's probable.

And you also contradicted yourself by bringing up North Korea, or do you really not know who's backing and allowing them to develop and threaten other with nukes?? But they wouldn't back Russia because of that Huh

umm ok