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What about "Putin killed him because of what he did in June"...is that even a possibility in your fantasy world? Or did you rule that one out as soon as the rest of the world started making that guess.

All Putin and Progozin did in June is to have a good laugh about what simpletons and chumps you guys are.

For added lulz, they labeled Prigozin a 'wanted insurrectionist' or whatever so that when anyone pitched a bitch about Russia's actions anywhere, Putin could just shrug and say it's a Wagner thing and "We feel your pain."

Effectively, in your universe there is no space for the most likely explanation: Prigo starts taking too much public light and credit, Shoigu & company start getting nervous and to make it worse Prigo keeps criticising them publicly, even with some references to "the grandpa".

The military convince Putin to force Wagner's to sign normal army contracts, which effectively means the dissolution of Wagner. Prigo is not happy and makes a show of force (nothing like a coup). This does not fall well in the Kremlin. They agree going to Bieloruzzia, but Putin is not paying the wages nor probably the money that is due from the business in other countries.

Prigo flies to Moscow, there is no agreement and as he flees out, a couple of S-300 solve the problem.

But ... that is not possible. The guy has to be alive, this has to be a psi-op, the MI6 killed him... dude, get real. Everything is possible, but the simples explanation tends to be the explanation.

That's why he HAS a universe, and you don't.

Does Ukraine simply want Crimea land? They don't seem to care about the people there.

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"All forces and services are in a state of combat readiness," Sevastopol Governor Mikhail Razvozhayev announced on Telegram. This week Ukraine touted that its forces destroyed a S-400 defense system in Crimea, and further that special operatives conducted an amphibious landing Wednesday night, and safely returned from the mission.
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Sure sure... Putler is all about care and people, everyone knows that. If you want to know about military and other loses you should ask the Ruzzian Government about how many soldiers have died, etc... - spoiler alert - they will not tell you.

I think Ukraine has attacked a legitimate target, that is for sure, but also kicked the Ruzzian Chief Psychos in their Crimean little balls. The equipment destroyed is quite expensive and even difficult to replace, unless you take one of the ones defending Moscow to replace it (he he). It is a show of effectiveness and the ability to undertake a quite difficult covert ops right in the anus of Ruzzia.

Don't you even know what war is about? War is about caring and protecting your country. Soldiers don't like fighting and dying. But at the base of it, they do it because they care, just like Putin cares by ordering them to fight to the death if necessary.

Zelensky does even worse with his soldiers and people. Ukraine doesn't have soldiers who are fighting and dying for Ukraine. Rather, they are fighting and dying so the US doesn't have to enter a war to steal Russia from the Russians. Can you even understand the difference?

As for destroyed equipment, Russia has captured so much Ukraine (US/Nato) equipment that the little Russia might lose in a particular battle is essentially as nothing. The problem for Russia is, the US and Nato have been sending old, out dated equipment to Ukraine. So, in the long run, it is essentially useless to Russia.

But look at what this means. The US and Nato are essentially destroying Ukraine in their wishful gamble that they might somehow possibly conquer Russia this way.

Wake up.

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