Quote from: Iroh on December 13, 2023, 11:36:36 AM

Quote from: junder on December 10, 2023, 11:09:52 AM

In my opinion, it is natural for parents to spoil their children because it is the right of parents who want their children to be happy. It's just that if they are spoiled excessively of course it's not good because it's likely that later they will depend more on their parents, by never having their own responsibilities, and of course this is not good.

I also don't think I can blame the parents entirely, because it's a common thing for all parents. If the children have a good mindset, maybe they can reject the spoiled actions of their parents and learn to be independent. So if they themselves have their own sense of responsibility I think they will learn everything independently.

How a child turns out to be later in his adulthood majorly has to do with his upbringing. And it’s the job of the parents/guardians to bring the child up right and straight.
It’s not natural for parents to spoil their children just cause they want their child to be happy. Parents who needlessly bend over to make their child happy always is cultivating irresponsibility in that child.

How can a child suddenly have a good mindset? When the child has been used to the good life, getting and fulfilling whatever desires that comes to mind. How can that child suddenly start to reject all the luxury given by the parents and strive to live responsibly and independently?
The parents of a child are a huge influence on how the child later turns out to be.

So do you think spoiling children is wrong, even if it's with the intention of making them happy, is it wrong?
I also say it's natural for parents to pamper their children as long as it's not excessive, I mean pampering children naturally not to the point where when they grow up and they are still spoiled, and this is what is unnatural in my opinion, because they are adults of course they have to learn to be independent, but if they are adults but still dependent or still spoiled by parents it is unnatural in my opinion, but when someone grows up there is nothing wrong with them wanting to be pampered back like they used to be a child. Because when they grow up they will face many things where there must be pleasure and disappointment, and when they are disappointed of course they need a home to go home to, namely their parents.

If they have grown up then they will also think about everything they have to do, where they will choose which things are good for them and which are not for them. therefore they will also be embarrassed if their parents always spoil them when they grow up, right? will they not have adult thoughts when they grow up?
Will they continue to be spoiled by their parents when they are in college? Maybe yes, because they love their parents so they don't mind this if only occasionally.