Quote from: philipma1957 on December 29, 2023, 05:47:08 PM

Let's pretend LoyceV wrote a perfect qualifying statement. anyone renting their own space wants to use it.

Like this:

Bla bla rent out my bla bla
These rules apply:

Quote from: LoyceV on March 16, 2019, 06:46:57 PM

I only advertise services that I like. I reserve the right to reject offers I don't like. If the service I'm advertising turns into a scam, I reserve the right to stop advertising it without returning payment.

Bla bla rent out my bla bla

Anyone is allowed to quote me (or any other forum post) like this without worrying about plagiarism.

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 29, 2023, 05:47:08 PM

1) "Thou shall not kill". A commandment must I credit it or can I say it.

Most English speakers will recognize the phrase, and instantly know you heard it somewhere else. That's not the case with my services quote above.

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BTW LoyceV it is a damn fine qualifier on your part.

Thanks

The main thing is to actually live by it, and from what I've seen, many people advertise anything they can without knowing what they advertise. For what it's worth: any advertising agency does the same.

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And anyone on the forum should be able to use it if they are renting out a space on

They can, with proper quote tags.

Off-topic: why do you hit Enter twice half way a sentence? I don't use my browser full screen, and this gives a terrible layout.

Quote from: Mia Chloe on December 29, 2023, 06:17:17 PM

Therefore my simple suggestion to prevent you from plagiarism is; I suggest that Loycev creates a thread to fully authorize the use of that application format without using his name as a reference.

I'm not going to do that. First, it's useless. Plagiarism isn't decided by the author of the thread, that's copyright. A copyright owner could give anyone permission to use their work, let's say by putting it in the public domain. But, anyone who copies it without referencing, still makes it look like it was his own work, and that is by definition plagiarism.
So, in short: I don't give away the rights to my writings, and there's no need to do so, because there's a quote button.

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 29, 2023, 06:24:11 PM

At LoyceV would you consider releasing your statement for people to use?

See above

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It is stricter than mine and some would prefer it over mine.

By all means: use it, within quote tags.

Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 29, 2023, 08:36:55 PM

LoyceV wouldn't wanna drag you out for a similar write-up since you ain't paid directly for it... To me, that's not plagiarism...

I bet Coca Cola would disagree if Pepsi starts advertising Holidays Are Coming Wink

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 29, 2023, 10:20:02 PM

Look I was very careful and quoted your entire thread and asked as I did not want to have fights or arguments about what is repeatable verbatim. Without credit.

I don't think we're fighting Wink

But quoting my entire post wasn't needed either, just quote the part you need. Like this:

Quote from: satoshi

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 29, 2023, 10:20:02 PM

SO any one that writes "I will charge a 10% fee to send up to 0.01 btc to your active LN wallet." gets charged with plagiarism according to your position.

It depends: will they copy it? If so, use the quote button. If I'd offer such a service (which various exchangers offer at 0.5% fee), I'd write my own text:

Quote from: LoyceV on December 28, 2020, 01:08:06 PM

I'm going to charge an outrageous amount: 1 Bitcoin LN satoshi per Forkcoin-satoshi. You're not paying for the coins, you're paying for the service. But since 2000 sats is more than enough for this purpose, it puts the total price ~~under~~ only a dollar.

If you write your own text, it's very unlikely someone else wrote the same thing. It also depends on the number of words: there's so much written text already that it's very difficult to write any small number of words that hasn't been written already. Let me think of something: "cows can't jump high". Unsurprisingly, Google tells me it has been written already.

Quote from: SamReomo on December 29, 2023, 10:24:54 PM

I think you can use any format as long as you can make some good changes in it.

That's what plagiarism spammers did after many bans: they used text spinners. It's more annoying to detect.

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 29, 2023, 10:43:18 PM

And this is the problem. He made a beautifully crafted legal statement and he says it must be quoted on this website.

I still don't get why that's a problem.

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So he is saying no one can have those terms without quoting him.

Nope. I'm not monopolizing those terms.

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Oh anyone that wants to use my new thread as an idea for their thread in currency can do so.

That's copyright: you allow anyone to use your work. Great! But you simply can't give anyone a freebie for claiming your work as their own.

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 29, 2023, 11:01:47 PM

I gave credit and did not pass off LoyceV's well written idea as my own.

You did. No worries there. But I've said it before in Ratimov's plagiarism accusation threads: I think the forum has an open loophole: you don't get banned if you copy anything and leave a small link with the source (or 10 different sources) at the bottom of a long post.

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But I do understand it may not have been clear enough.

I'm just saying how I would have done it

One short selective quote instead of quoting a whole topic at the bottom.

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much like

"not your keys not your coins" I do not know who said it first.

The difference is that any experienced Bitcointalk user will know this isn't your own text, and knows you're not passing it off as your own.