Quote from: paxmao on April 20, 2024, 09:57:20 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 20, 2024, 09:26:29 PM

Quote from: DaRude on April 20, 2024, 06:32:46 PM

Quote from: paxmao on April 20, 2024, 11:45:16 AM

A few interesting news. Firstly, the aid to Ukraine along with other bills for Israel and Taiwan are going to be voted in the US. It is likely that the Biden admin has managed to get enough support while ensuring that the Speaker (Republican) is not impeached by the extreme Trumpists in Congress, but everything at the moment is just a glimpse of hope rather than a certainty.

The aid would be a blow to the Ruzzian chances of presenting a clear win in Ukraine, perhaps to presenting anything win-like.

On the front, a Ruzzia strategic bomber (with capacity to carry nukes) has been downed by a missile. This is super expensive and very difficult to replace - perhaps even impossible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwTAK0v5OPk

There is satellite confirmation of the loss of an S-400 battery due to the Ukrainian attack a couple of days ago with ATACAMS, used at maximum range probably.

Quote from: https://www.yahoo.com/news/warning-signs-frontline-collapse-amid-153000373.html

Warning signs of frontline collapse amid Russian offensive — Ukrainian officer
...In a recent interview with NV Radio on April 18, major Maksym Zhorin, Deputy Commander of the 3rd Separate Assault Brigade, acknowledged the possibility of a frontline collapse due to increasing Russian military pressure.

"It is indeed possible [to imagine the front collapsing]," Zhorin stated, emphasizing the importance of preparing for the worst-case scenario. He reported a notable escalation in Russian operations, extending their reach beyond traditional front lines and increasing covert activities.

Quote from: https://www.c-span.org/video/?535006-1/speaker-mike-johnson-holds-news-conference

“I really do believe the intel and the briefings that we’ve gotten” -Johnson

Do you think the aid is to help Ukraine get back to 1991 borders, or just enough to try and keep it from a complete collapse, to keep it fighting for few more months? The timing and the sudden change of heart of the speaker after he got the intel surely must sound suspect, no? Like all the previous deliveries, that is, not to win but barely enough to keep it in the fight just a bit longer. Or of course it's all just a coincidence... Roll Eyes

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Yet the collapse has not happened, we are seeing pictures of Ruzzian soldiers on "golfcarts" trying to advance, the US is far closer to approving 60 billion in aid ...

The aid to Ukraine is to fight Ruzzia. This means that Ukraine will be able to either stop Ruzzian advances, recover some ground or keep on hitting the targets that are more valuable, thus achieving a further demilitarisation of Ruzzia - hopefully will take a couple of decades to build what they have and will keep on loosing.

In any of those cases, Ukraine keeps being an independent nation, potentially can join the EU and/or NATO with nothing that Putin can do to avoid it and Ruzzia cannot present all the waste of money and human lives of Ruzzians as anything remotely close to a victory.

Look, the sooner the Orcs are clearly stopped and choose to starting thinking about a reasonable proposal instead of joke-like stuff, the better for the world's economy.

Hey, dumBAss, I hope you are not to old.... one can spend a whole life waiting for a dollar collapse and die before it happens still thinking that is "very close". I am sure you know what I am talking about.

Surely you must agree that if US really wanted Ukraine to either stop Russia or recover some ground then stopping the aid for 4 months, and not sending tech until it's too late (M777, HIMARS, PATRIOT, ATACMS, F16 etc etc etc...) just sounds like a cruel joke and wouldn't make any sense at all. Now the last point (highlighted) is totally logical. Prolonging the conflict just to annoy Russia a bit longer, little downside for US except some $$. Unfortunately the downside for Ukraine on the other hand, might be unrecoverable, but no one is counting or really seems to care about that now, lets just wave some flags to keep them in the fight a bit longer. Yes, yes, orcs on golfcarts probably without weapons too, just with some slingshots, and Ukraine will totally join NATO any day now, just need to keep the Ukrainian population hanging in there a bit longer...