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Quote from: paxmao on May 24, 2024, 08:35:47 AM

Quote from: Branko on May 24, 2024, 08:14:23 AM

Quote from: paxmao on May 23, 2024, 11:26:37 AM

There was no threat. Now Ruzzia has spent a lot of money while creating a new and very real threat.

You're so brainwashed that even notorious Blackwater founder disagrees with you about that...so obviously discussion
with you is meaningless:

https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1793187801703338343

Quote from: paxmao on May 23, 2024, 03:32:59 PM

What cookies do they need? Ruzzia annexed Crimea and put a puppet government. You do not need to be to smart to guess what is next and there are not many options to protect yourself.

I see that Ukraine joining NATO is their chance for survival, not a cookie driven party of shorts.

After all this 320 pages of discussion, you still think you can reverse events and we don't remember that Ukraine was invited to NATO BEFORE
Russia annexed Crimea?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Bucharest_summit

"Invited to join NATO"? Interesting if there was such a thing. NATO does not "invite" - anyone can request joining NATO (even Ruzzia could ask). If you ask me, it has been proven beyond any doubt that Ukraine was very right in considering this option. The fact is that Putin simply does not consider Ukraine a free independent state and that is the root problem of all this.

BTW you should read your own sources...

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Georgia and Ukraine had hoped to join the NATO Membership Action Plan,[3] but, while welcoming the two countries’ aspirations for membership and agreeing that "these countries will become members of NATO", the NATO members decided to review their request in December 2008.[4][5]

In my book, that's a no.

Now... let's talk tenability of Crimea in light of yesterdays ATACAMS strike on a radar facility in the southwest of Crimea. Would you say that Crimea is tenable?

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-russia-war-crimea-atacms-strike-hits-russian-space-radar-station-report-1904311

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The news outlet Krym Realii, which is part of U.S.-funded network Radio Free Liberty, said at least six explosions were reported in Crimea's Simferopol area and some eight explosions in the area of the Belbek airfield—a key Russian military air base—and in the Novofedorivka settlement.

You should probably tell NATO that NATO doesn't invite. Looks like you know something they don't

Quote from: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_8443.htm

Issued on 03 Apr. 2008
Today, we have decided to invite Albania and Croatia to begin accession talks to join our Alliance.
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NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO.

Russia stopped that plan, but Zelenskiy has no choice but to keep trying now

Zelenskiy says it's time for NATO to invite Ukraine into alliance. President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Thursday it was time for NATO to take the political decision to invite Ukraine to join the military alliance, and that Kyiv wanted to know when it would become a member.

Roll Eyes

So you're saying Zelenskiy doesn't know what he's talking about? It's quiet amazing how many times you're proven wrong so you just change the subject with some new statement which is proven wrong once again. I don't think i could do that even if i tried.

It all has to come from the country. The invitation to talks is only after a country expresses interest. You have never proven anything other than your stupidity and lack of knowledge.