Quote from: suchmoon on September 11, 2024, 07:24:42 PM

Quote from: DaRude on September 11, 2024, 03:54:51 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on September 10, 2024, 12:33:53 AM

Quote from: be.open on September 09, 2024, 11:56:22 AM

It is very easy to end the conflict, it is just that the only realistic scenario for ending the conflict does not suit either Kyiv or Washington.

I think you're wrong, Putin's death suits Kyiv just fine. Not sure about Washington, he's been dead for a while so probably has no strong opinions about this.

That's just not true there were many articles analyzing successors in case of Putin's sudden demise

The context was "realistic scenario". Your wet dreams about an even more deranged KGBist taking over after Putin don't count.

This is Putin's war. It's useless to most Russians, oligarchs and ordinary alcoholics alike. No, Putin's death doesn't guarantee the war would end, but Putin staying in power guarantees the war will not end (even if Ukraine makes some concessions for some hypothetical peace deal). All other things being equal, Putin's death (whether of natural causes or perhaps suicide in a bunker if the war continues to defy his dreams) is a more realistic chance, small as it may be, at long-term peace, compared to the Z-tarded fantasies of Ukraine just giving up and disappearing off the map.

You're either delusional, in denial or just propagandist. If it's one of the first two I suggest you educate yourself. Here's some reading from a US think tank Stimson Center to start you off on

Quote from: https://www.stimson.org/2023/be-careful-what-you-wish-for-putins-replacement-might-not-be-better

Be Careful What You Wish For: Putin’s Replacement Might Not Be Better

It is a risk to assume Putin’s successor would be more likely to end the war in Ukraine or more likely to espouse liberal values

and

Quote from: https://inews.co.uk/news/world/putins-successor-worse-freed-russian-prisoner-3230724

‘Putin’s successor could be worse’ says freed Russian prisoner

Vladimir Putin’s opponents hope that Ukraine’s Kursk offensive will undermine his authority and might eventually lead to a coup. But if this happens, one of Russia’s bravest dissidents has a warning: his successor could be even worse.
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Intelligence experts have been cautioning for some time about who might try to overthrow Putin. In 2022, the former MI6 director Sir Alex Younger said that he was “in danger of being outflanked” by the “arguably fascistic right wing“.

But who are we kidding, think we all know that you're just the latter of those options, hope all the name calling you're doing helps you cope with the situation better.

Quote from: paxmao on September 11, 2024, 07:49:41 PM

^^Agree, Putin's peace plan is a surrender of Ukraine and that is not a realistic option even opening the scenarios to rare events.

Meanwhile, Ukraine understood that is a good moment to strike Moscow and the nearby infrastructure. Airports and power facilities have been hit by drones with a degree of success. If you ask me, hitting Moscow is linked to the issue of Putin being an obstacle to end the war. I think Ruzzians can keep going about the war and Putin's government despite a cracking economy or even if Ukraine invades Kursk. I am not so sure that frequent attacks in sensible parts of the Moscow infrastructure can be overlooked in the same manner.

BTW word is that ATACAMS can now be used against military targets inside Ruzzia. Why not... drones are already doing it.

Ruzzia has started to counter-attack in Kursk - it took a while but it seems that Ruzzia finally figured out they had to do something. Better to have Ruzzia bombing Ruzzia in any case.

All Ukraine has left to hope for is to politically destabilize Russia, and despite your attempts I don't see any evidence of that happening. There were already explosions in Moscow before, and even Kremlin was hit with a drone, and no one really cared much. Kursk brought some political pressure on Putin but he just brushed it off. Now as we discussed, instead of capturing everything under Seim river, it's turning out the way everyone expected, Ukraine just opened a new front for itself on Russia's land where Russia can use conscripts, results will surprise no one.

Kursk August20 - September11

UA is already guaranteed to have some blackouts during the winter and that's if Russia doesn't hit anymore power plants from now on. It's projected to be the 'Hardest' Winter Yet for Ukraine, and it's about to loose Pokrovsk. EU is bracing for new wave of UA migrants due to blackouts during this winter. And both ultra right and ultra left, who are gaining in Germany, oppose sending military aid to Ukraine. Not to mention Trump etc etc etc... Cheering UA to go into the winter like this is just calling for the additional useless suffering. I don't see any experts even claiming that UA can come out of this winter in a stronger position than it is in now. Zelenskyy is all in on this, he cornered himself in and he cannot back down but others should really not enable this whole no negotiations until we're back to 1991 borders suicidal madness. Negotiating now can just bring us to status quo of 2013, alternatives to negotiating now will not improve UA's position during the winter and can turn truly catastrophic for UA.