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Bitcoin ripping towards the all time high. We seem to be pressing up against the high end of this declining trading range. If this breaks out, we’ll be headed into new price discovery territory. It’s close to happening. No idea what will be the catalyst that sends us through the sellers, but I know I won’t be caught missing out on the face melting rally that is coming by setting sell orders now.

I can't begin to imagine the amount of turmoil Bitcoin will cause on all social media platforms when Bitcoin finally breaks out

I'm so excited 😅😅 I have a lot of my friends I need to laugh at

While it is indeed fun to laugh at doubters, remember that the best revenge is living well and killing with kindness is a good way to turn a negative into a positive. Instead of laughing at your friends for not getting rich with you, take them out for a nice night on the town and buy them a fancy dinner.

While i condemn low motivtations like revenge and making fun of poor people - be it mentally, monetary or both - i merited the post for pointing to the elegant alternative.
Good life is all about love and peace, and all your actions should be accompanied by one of those feelings. When it comes to re-acting, things are a bit different, because sometimes the most peaceful and loving human has to take and win a fight.
To come to the point: If you take naysayers and HFSP-people out to dinner, do in the mood of love and happiness.
Poor people just deserve compassion, we should show them some respect in this manner.

I don't really disagree with your overall points.. .even though some of them are coming off as a wee bit too much lovey-dovey woo-woo.

I perfectly understand that. But this is a one-sided view to it.

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It seems to me that there remains a bit of a role for some antagonism and ability to argue points with a bit of rigor and even personal attacks (from time to time), whether we are referring to online relations or to in-person relations.

Of course, there are "acceptable" context-related boundaries too, and none of us should proclaim to be innocent from either purposefully or accidentally crossing over such context-related boundaries..

It's actually simple, and much less romantic or naive than it might look at first glance, as well as proven by many spiritual teachings, to mention Shaolin Kung-Fu (Gong Fu, actually) as a more serious and credible example.

Try to look at it like so: Every time you experience negative emotions (pain, grunt, hate and so on) you are attacking your own wellbeing. All feelings based off these emotions are limiting your quality of life. You can (if you practice) stay passive in regards of those feelings, to choose how you want to react right after. This mode of living can actually bring one close to (real) freedom, and it also gives one the neccessary judgement to stand and act above (inherited) moral understandings. That's also where romantic and the lovey-dovey woo-woo ends, because you have to deal with the consequences as well.
One can (externally) justify said negative emotions as much as he wants, but this will create even more events of experience unfree, negative emotions.
When we are grateful, helpful, forgiving, loving (...) we are actually giving much more to ourselves than to others, while not "giving away too much to others", if done right.
Most people are confusing this with dependance, and most time it's some sort of dependance that makes people acting like "giving", but they actually try to take something in return. That doesn't age well, typically.

I get nervous (skeptical?) if anyone proclaims some answer to be "simple." t is possible that we might be talking past each other to some extent, because the initial question was about how we might present ourselves to others and how we might interact in terms of laughing at them and/or I told you so versus kiling them with kindness, and there can be times in which either one of the tactics could be productive, and there may be some need to concern ourselves with our audience too.. .. I am not presuming that a person who might fly off the handle is doing such in an unmeasured way, even if some impression of "unmeasured" might be communicated.

Sometimes we might choose to not telegraph our true motives and the extent that we might be exaggerating our behaviors, while at the same time, I generally expect that laughing at someone else for being a no coiner (or a lowcoiner) might not be a good way of dealing with the matter or the relationship with such other person... sometimes teaching moments or i told you so assertions might be in order, and I am not necessarily going to presume that the communicator of that message is acting from a point of ego, even if it might appear to be so.

Quote from: OutOfMemory on October 17, 2024, 08:03:51 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 17, 2024, 07:06:14 PM

I am not sure about how to employ the balance exactly, especially since there seems to involve free will and discretion in these matters that sometimes can be difficult for some folks to figure out where to play it, and surely any of us could become uncomfortable when we might get stuck in interactions that we don't really want to be in, and sometimes we might need to learn when to engage and/or when to remove ourselves from the interaction.. and I don't claim to always know how to employ such discretion (whether in the real world or online) since there always is a bit of a moving target going on, too.

As stated above, "free will" is bound to taking consequences.
But for the interactions part, you can mostly trust your feelings and walk away in peace, if i have understood your argument well.
We are deciding for ourselves in which interactions and relationships we want to be (stay) in, but most times we are just not brave enough to respect our true needs, because we fear the consequences or blindly follow some bullshit morale codex.

This is a huge discussion between all kind of ethics and cultures, it also was at the roots of christianity, until the church fucked over the original christian messages to slave the people, but now we get way out of topic (in an out-of-topic topic) Cheesy

It seems to be getting beyond my ability to follow, since I thought that initially we were talking about whether or not to laugh at the face of the no coiner/low coiner - bitcoin naysayer.

Quote from: OutOfMemory on October 17, 2024, 08:03:51 PM

I am not a hippie (or like that) but i refuse to feel bad because of my own decisions. Actually we meet a lot of decisions every day, considering judgements are decisions too. "This dude pisses me off", "I hate pink people", "I love getting put down by my wife, because that gives me her attention"... Should i go on? Theoretically, with a few exceptions, you can quickly change yourself just by monitoring and altering your decisions, and life will react to those actions through consequences. Most people to decide the same, every fucking day, and cry that their life is so unsatisfying.

I think that I do understand this part, yet I am not sure how easy it would be to just change the way that we choose to interact with others... especially people who are already used to interacting with you. It is easier to change your ways of interactions with strangers or people you just met as compared with people you already established relationships and interaction practices.

Quote from: OutOfMemory on October 17, 2024, 08:03:51 PM

Shit, now we're even more off topic, so i'll end it here.
Think about it and you should get a good idea. You can always decide to keep thinking about it the same as before Cheesy

I am not going to disagree that there can be some challenges in changing our ways of thinking or changing our ways of interacting, yet I doubt that you can presume that change is necessary or even that if we might be disadvantaged (or not able to learn more) by doubling down with our already existing practices. We can have a lot of interactions with people in our lives and some of them interactions might not be very often, and I am not going to presume that there is any advantage if I come across some friend or relative with whom I had not interacted for more than 5 years, but then he is acting like a totally different person from my previous interaction with him. If so, I might choose not to interact with him or to cut the interaction short if I am having trouble understanding him... and you might also consider that there could be someone with whom we had not interacted for close to 20 years, but then we meet and after 15-30 minutes, we start to tell the same stories that we did 20 years a go, and there is a bit of comfort in that and a bit of comfort in measuring the extent to which each of us is the same and how each of us might show that we might have changed during that elapsed time.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 16, 2024, 09:01:55 PM

Bitcoin ripping towards the all time high. We seem to be pressing up against the high end of this declining trading range. If this breaks out, we’ll be headed into new price discovery territory. It’s close to happening. No idea what will be the catalyst that sends us through the sellers, but I know I won’t be caught missing out on the face melting rally that is coming by setting sell orders now.

judging by the exhaustion level of my patience, I wouldn't wonder if we got another dump to wash out the tourists.

...Even though, you ongoingly seem to be confused about whether you are still in your BTC accumulation phases, which is that you seem to be confused about price-based sustainable withdrawal and trading
(gambling which you seem to not to be able to resist)...
.... your seemingly irresistible tendencies to want to fuck around with gambling and/or trading...

Hey JJG either you have Alzheimer disease and don't remember what I wrote over the years, or you confuse me with someone else.

Oh gosh.. I am not sure exactly what happened, but it seems some portion of my response got mixed up because when I link back to the post, I see some parts of that post I would have had been directing at Philip rather than you.. but I had two portions of that post where I had repeated language directed at you but that portion was with the middle of my response to phillip.

I think that I now fixed the post, but I am not 100% sure that is is 100% correct now.. or if there is a need for me to really go through all of the post, "for the record" or to get the record straight.. and yeah, I am not ruling out Alzheimer's either.

Quote from: Gachapin on October 17, 2024, 09:08:21 PM

If you intentionally wanted to trigger me into a defensive stance to start an argument, you should come up with something better...

You are correct that sometimes i do enjoy trying to trigger you, and some other forum members too, yet I am pretty sure that this time was not one of those times that I actually had any real/meaningful beef with the substance of your post (or with you, either). In sum, I think that I made a mistake.. and sorry that it contributed to confusion.. because yeah, clearly in that portion I was bashing on @phillipma1957 and not you.

Quote from: Gachapin on October 17, 2024, 09:08:21 PM

BTW it's Thursday, what are you doing here?

Just waiting to celebrate, and thanks for remembering. #nohomo hahahahaha

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 17, 2024, 07:06:14 PM

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Lord have mercy. Such length.

That appears to be the post that I edited (a little).

Let us pray.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 17, 2024, 08:12:28 PM

Slow and steady wins the race, it’s a marathon not a sprint.

I don't really like the "slow" part though, we could use more of "swift" word

Personally, I doubt that bitcoin works like that.. the slow and steady part, I mean.

Sure there are ups and downs and ultimately ups, but if we are looking at spot price, there also tends to be a lot of violence in both directions, even though surely sometimes we get the sense of "slow and steady," even though it seems that perception of "slow and steady" is an illusion.

In other words, the greatest wealth transfer known to man is not going to happen without a few battles here and there and even a few casualties.. which none of us should want to be part of the casualties group.

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on October 17, 2024, 07:06:14 PM

--OMG, ginormous classic JJG--
they (:status quo rich twats) run a pretty BIG risk of getting fucked pretty BIG time if they don't have the BTC that they claim to have (which I think is part of the explanations in regards to how Gamma squeezes can end up taking place and truly fuck over both a lot of the shorters and/or the ones who don't have the BTC that they claim to have.. so good luck to those who fuck around with not buying bitcoin when they are selling bitcoin exposure to others.. hello, FTX in mid-to-late 2022).

Would have merited
Because of treasure inside
Were it not too long
#haiku

Aren't you miss prissy.

Cheesy