Quote from: Hispo on Today at 12:58:25 AM

People go the the United States because the wages are high when compared to the minimum wages in their native countries, that is fact and even with the "bad economy" and alledgedly high unemployment rates you continue to talk about it seems there is always jobs for immigrants. Perhaps, there are jobs in the USA which people born there are not willing to do but desperate inmigrants are okey with? like picking up fruit in a summer afternoon or cleaning the toilets in a restaurant? I don't know, just guessing.
Also, the treatment you would get if you went to another country pretty much depends on the country in question, there are countries which are more open to immigrants than others. My country in the XX century was a very good example of one which pretty much allowed all European refugees to get in so they could flee from war in Europe, they were welcomed with open arms and we did not ask them for further documentation beyond their names and their country of origin.

Yes, once again, "Slave labor is good because we get cheap veggies." Thank you Mitt Romney, for your outpouring of sympathy towards your own people... And I can't believe native born US citizens don't want to slip around on cow guts in a meat packing plant, or clamor around on icy rooftops nailing in shingles, risking life and limb for $12/hr with no benefits. Of course, if millions of migrants weren't here, such jobs would pay $30+/hr, and the job would actually be worth doing, as it was in our grandparents' time.

Regarding some countries having better treatment for immigrants... Yes, those countries are all Western countries. Now, let's go to Mexico and see how they treat foreigners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiIfRD6zwhI

And look at that! "Go home, gringo" over and over again. "You're driving up prices on us! Whaaa!" So what were millions of Mexicans doing to us all this time? Shockingly self-centered attitudes down there, but it's par for the course in developing countries.

Now let's go to India... oh yeah, racist beyond belief, bursting at the seams with nationalist/racist/ethnic/religious pride. They've taken ZERO migrants, and sent 18 million abroad.

You don't need to feel guilty for these people. They've made their choice. They don't subscribe to your liberal, globullist, multicultural world view. They reject it outright. They only want freebies. They think Western kindness is weakness and stupidity to be taken advantage of.

FTR I'm 100% fine with multiculturalism, but it has to be reciprocal. They can't come here until they actually embrace the concept and let us go the other way and do the same. They can't buy land here until we can do the same there.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on Today at 01:33:57 AM

People make economies. Immigrants are people. They work, which helps businesses, which helps other people. They pay taxes, which helps the government, which helps other people. I'd bet you've eaten a lot more food than you'd think cooked by an immigrant off of plates that immigrants washed.

Right now in America there is a labor shortage with low unemployment. That means there aren't enough people for all the jobs. That's with almost 20% of the work force being filled by immigrants.

What do you think would happen to the economy if it lost almost 20% of it's workers?

What labor shortage? It's not a labor shortage, it's a Wall Street power grab:

-14% of US working age males aren't working
-the US workforce participation rate is the lowest it's been since women entered the workforce in the 60s
-Uber is locking out drivers cause too many already waiting for a fare
-There are no good jobs in America
-There is no affordable housing in America

What a nice virtue signaling person you are to step directly over millions of struggling Americans to help random scabs and strike breakers coming up from Mexico.

Regarding their alleged "tax contributions", just one kid costs $16k to send to public school for a year. No migrant is paying $16k into the system. Many end up on SSD and go back to their home countries where they continue to collect for years...