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As usual, Ukraine needs to make sure there are plenty of expensive and irreplaceable assets destroyed in Ruzzia daily, so that eventually the scale starts weighting more towards a peace in reasonable terms for Ukraine. One billion here in oil, half billion there in ammo, 100 million destroying planes,... etc. There is a lot to choose from and drones are not expensive.

And how exactly do you expect that Russian general, that's tasked with nuclear deterrence/retaliation watching the radar screen, to know if US ballistic missile with possible nuclear payload crossing the Russian boarder from Ukraine, with general trajectory towards Moscow will actually come down from space at some oil facilities before it reaches Moscow? I guess you expect him to know all possible trajectories that are crossing paths with St. Petersburg, Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg, all RU nuclear cites, RU nuclear power plants, nuke early warning radars etc etc etc... Does anyone care to ask the rest of the world if they're ok with that? Stop playing dumb

Look at the Median Age, Fertility etc if the goal is to get to 100 couples they're doing a good job.

Trump has lied and broken tons of promise before, so I wouldn't read much into his "promises". With that said, if he was serious about it he could just say that there will be no new aid for Ukraine, period, and that Ukraine has until January 21 to make the best deal it can. Then have backdoor talks with Russia decide on the compromise and pass to Ukraine what they should agree to. If Zelenskiy decided to ignore that, his inner circle and generals would quickly make Z understand that he's in no position to go against the will of US, and you're delusional if you think otherwise.

Anyone who has ever looked at the globe realizes that Russia is not in it for the territory. Russia cannot allow Ukraine to fall under US's sphere of influence. So securing Russia's influence, culture, granting Russian language official status in UA constitution... , and no NATO would take priority over square kilometers of land. i.e. agree for UA to hold the land for X years and then referendum, in return of putting Yanukovych (or someone like that) back in Kyiv.

Independent Ukraine is impossible, even Switzerland is not independent anymore. It must fall under some sphere of influence, and as we all see, Russia cannot allow Nuland's cookies in anymore.

Everyone realizes that Russia cannot hold on forever, just as everyone realizes that Russia doesn't have to as Ukraine would collapse socially, politically, and militarily way before Russia does. So continuing this is just an exercise in futility

I expect that Ruzzia notices that they cannot distinguish one from another and decide to leave Ukraine so that they do not have any missiles flying towards Moscow. BTW I do not think ATACAMS can carry nuclear warheads.

Russia is absolutely in for the territory. Firstly to have warm water ports (Crimea) and also, not for the territory as for the square meters, but for the territory in terms of keeping distance with NATO and with possible nuclear missiles launch sites. Please, do not make people laugh pretending Putin is on this for the good of the Ruzzian language or the like.

Right, well your wishful thinking is just not something that the rest of the world is willing to bet their lives on. (Don't think ATACMS can carry nuclear payload either, but it doesn't mean it cannot be modified to do so, plus how would you differentiate it from the profile of a ballistic missile that can at launch).

Did Russia not have the warm water ports in Crimea before this? Once again, this is about spheres of influence, not sure what is so hard for you to understand about this. That means just as with Belarus, the lines on the map don't matter as much as which sphere the whole country falls under. And that includes culture, language, heritage etc... Exactly the reason why Ukrainian government does everything it can to [...]

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The detection of ballistic missiles, the place of its launch and where are they heading has quite a bit of science to it, but that's for another day.

Again, if you have an enemy in front that has ballistic missiles that - that is your assumption, which I think is wrong - can have nuclear warheads and you do not know if what they launch is or not a nuclear warhead, the safest and best option is to leave that enemy alone them alone. Problem solved.

Crimea was Ukrainian "before this", meaning by "this" the illegal annexation by Ruzzia of territories of another country, namely Ukraine (in this case, one of many). Ukraine could decide on who could use the ports, which were rented to Ruzzia before 2014. Rented, not given.

Spheres of influence are effectively easy to understand, what seems difficult for you to accept is that they are not immobile and they do not last forever particularly if a preeminent nation looses the cold war but pretends that did not happen. The USSR is gone in all senses, Putin trying to rebuild (in territory) will only cause further destruction.

Musk is on the side of Musk and will say whatever is good for... guess who.

Well looks like after RU showed it intentions on UA's power grid before the winter, Biden gave his approval. Let's see what changes it'll bring, and what will Zelenskiy ask for next.

Point stands, Russia had a warm water port in Crimea before this started. You gave me an idea, during the negotiations, instead of transferring RU claimed land not under RU control, they can just sign a lease, like US did with Cuba, everyone should be happy then right?

Sure spheres of influence change all the time, but on the periphery, no one should act surprised at the results of bringing cookies right to the boarder.