Quote from: paxmao on Today at 10:21:20 AM

Quote from: DaRude on November 17, 2024, 09:52:55 PM

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Well looks like after RU showed it intentions on UA's power grid before the winter, Biden gave his approval for 300km ATACMS. Let's see what changes it'll bring, and what will Zelenskiy ask for next.

Point stands, Russia had a warm water port in Crimea before this started. You gave me an idea, during the negotiations, instead of transferring RU claimed land not under RU control, they can just sign a lease, like US did with Cuba, everyone should be happy with that, right?

Sure spheres of influence change all the time, but on the periphery, no one should act surprised at the results of bringing cookies right to the boarder.

That seems what the news are saying. They could have choose to "notify by doing" instead of publishing it, so I guess there a reason why the filtered that to the press instead of simply letting Ruzzia find out after getting 20 or 30 planes destroyed.

What will he ask next? Ukraine has always asked for the same thing: Go back home and make little Ruzzians with your wives instead of coming to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians while getting killed in the process of trying.

BTW, ATACAMS is not really that long range. Ruzzia will need to pull aviation further away, depots further away and be mindful that will get hit back when attacking the Ukrainian infrastructure. My guess is that the US government has considered that they have to keep "demilitarising" Ruzzia quickly as Putin is trying and failing to recover Kursk quickly.

Perhaps is like both know there is a deadline for armed actions.

Any bet on the first targets? Tangarog airbase maybe?

Think you already know the answer to that question. The reason is, as with all previous deliveries, they all coincidentally come too little and too late. Just enough to raise the morale and have a shiny headlines, not enough to effect anything, but slows the bleeding enough to keep UA fighting just a bit longer. Luckily for us all there's a ton of communications happening behind closed doors, even Iran notified Israel before attacking. The outcome has already been decided and we're just watching last hand played out.

You funny. What miracle weapon UA will ask west for next: switchblades, javelins, M777, HIMARS, Patriots, Abrams, Leopards, F16, ATACMS ... we all see how effective they all were, surely the next one must make a difference.

Quote from: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/17/biden-ukraine-russia-missiles-north-korea-response

Biden lets Ukraine use U.S.-supplied long-range missiles in Russia's Kursk region
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A source with knowledge of the issue confirmed the Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) was only authorized for use in the Kursk area, where North Korean troops have been deployed.
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U.S. officials hope that if North Korean troops in Kursk are hit, Pyongyang might review its decision to send troops to Russia and the Russian counterattack in Kursk will fail.
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A Russia expert from the think-tank the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD) told reporters the authorization should not be limited to the Kursk region and said Biden should drop the restriction.

So no Tangarog, they had plenty of time to move the planes but looks like they want to attack UA power grid a bit more before the winter and needed more time before relocating planes further back.