Quote from: paxmao on Today at 08:23:04 PM

Quote from: DaRude on December 09, 2024, 08:55:54 PM

Quote from: paxmao on December 09, 2024, 09:18:33 AM

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Ukraine and Ruzzia "ideals" are exactly opposite. The recruiting age in Ukraine has been stubbornly kept relatively high at 25 years, because the only reason than older Ukrainians are fighting is because they want their children to have a shimmer of hope of scaping the Moscovian rule and actually have a country that they can run and decide upon by themselves.
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Because anyone cares what Ukrainian "ideals" are?

Quote from: https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/zelensky-popularity-poll-fallen-three-years-war-stzqf5bpn

How Zelensky’s popularity has sunk after nearly three years of war

He may have rallied Ukraine against Russia, but war-weariness and army corruption rows have hurt his image and most voters would prefer he not seek a second term
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Just 16 per cent would vote to re-elect him for a second term, according to an opinion poll of 1,200 Ukrainians published this week by the Social Monitoring Centre in Kyiv. The poll, the most comprehensive study of electoral preferences since the invasion began in 2022, also found that about 60 per cent would prefer Zelensky not to even stand for re-election.
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There is also a danger that Zelensky’s popularity could plummet even further if he goes ahead with Washington’s suggestion that Ukraine should begin sending younger men to the front. A senior official in President Biden’s administration said this week that Ukraine should lower the minimum age at which men could be mobilised for the war from 25 to 18.

So majority of Ukrainians want to end the war as soon as possible, and are open to territorial concessions which would automatically trigger elections in UA, but i'm sure the guy currently in power with just 16% chance of being reelected when the war ends, has some really valid reasons why the war should continue. Not like Ukrainian people can do anything about it (well, outside of another revolution)

Yes they do. The common soldier does not fight only for money or for "cookies" (I congratulate you on your restrain on not publishing yet another picture of US diplomats).

But why are not taking about Syria? Is everything going well for Ruzzia there? You know... some satellites are showing what looks like the deployed Ruzzian troops leaving what is their only significant military base in the Mediterranean?

What do Ruzzias says? Why don't you go and find a poll to see if they think that the war in Ukraine has costed them their position in Syria? Because it certain as h*ll that it very much looks like.

Please do explain what the common soldier is fighting for? Cause it surely sounds more and more like politicians rejected a relatively good offer of no NATO in Ukraine, and Donetsk and Luhansk going to Russia, to now possibly mobilizing 18yr old kids and women, still no NATO, and now Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson going to Russia. I wonder why only 16% would want to re-elect such great negotiator? How long do you think it is before Zelenskyy is on the plane to UK (Assad style) after trying to explain to common soldiers wtf all of this was about?

I understand how you'd rather talk about Syria than Ukraine, but so far it looks like an agreement between Putin and Erdogan. Putin gets to concentrate on Ukraine, Erdogan gets Syria, west once again foolishly cheers a flavor of ISIS coming back in power before pretending to be shocked that now they have a new military engagement to support. It is quiet amazing how people in the west are manipulated to cheer on a wanted terrorist in US with a $10M bounty on his head coming to power in Syria.

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Turkish-backed fighters attack Kurds in Syria
Syria was on the brink of a fresh round of conflict on Tuesday as Turkish-backed fighters advanced on the Kurdish-majority city of Kobane.
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Lindsay Graham, a US senator, on Monday called on the Biden administration to protect the Kurds, who worked with US forces to expel the Islamic State from Syria.

“We should not allow the Kurdish forces – who helped us destroy ISIS on President Trump’s watch – to be threatened by Turkey or the radical Islamists who have taken over Syria,” he wrote on X, formerly Twitter.
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But on Tuesday sources in the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) pleaded for help to stop the Turkish advance on Kobane, which was the site of a major battle between Islamic State and Kurdish fighters in 2014/15.

With Syria in Flux, Turkish Forces Attack U.S.-Backed Forces

Rebels supported by Turkish air power fired on a Kurdish-controlled city in northern Syria, pitting proxies of the U.S. and Turkey — NATO allies — against each other.

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Turkey's Erdogan issues chilling comment about Putin in snub to the West. Turkey's President, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has claimed that he and Russian President Vladimir Putin "are the only two leaders left" on the world stage, comments that will likely anger his Western allies in NATO.

But let's keep feeding uneducated as that's somehow a good thing for the west