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You have good battles going on here, Ukraine needs peace, period. Ukraine does not have so many personnel.

Russia's conditions for ending the conflict have not changed - the key ones being the refusal to join NATO and Ukraine's neutral status. But Ukraine needs to think faster, the conflict will soon spread to the Dnipropetrovsk region.

They definitely won't be accepted into NATO in any case.

Yep. All that remains is to accept the objective reality and make the appropriate amendments to the Constitution.

Of course, it could be expected from you to say anything different. But why don't we talk about the Elephant in the room?

You probably were thinking that Trump was going to hand over Ukraine, and now you have probably realised that it is not only the case, but further more Trump is going to arm twist the Ruzzian economy further into reaching a reasonable peace plan.

And do not get me wrong, it may happen that Ukraine provides some short of written guaranty of not joining NATO, but who needs to join NATO when 80.000 NATO soldiers will be placed in the border with Ruzzia. Wherever that border ends up being.

800,000 Ruzzians dead, billions lost and the stores of vehicles depleted, there is a country called Ukraine, there is clear intent to become a modern free and western leaning country and there will certainly be physical guarantees of safety for them.

Congratulations, you get to keep the wasteland - I mean, possibly. Grin