Quote from: paxmao on February 22, 2025, 09:01:02 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on February 22, 2025, 05:44:32 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on February 22, 2025, 03:43:14 PM

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Here is what you and almost everybody else is missing BIG TIME. THERE ISN'T ANY UKRAINE, LEGALLY.

When Zelensky cancelled elections, what he really did was conquered Ukraine, by cancelling the Ukraine Constitution. He talks Ukraine. But since he doesn't formally have any flow of legalization into what was Ukraine, it all is big talk... and that's all.

The former Ukraine is Z-land, or noman's land. The governments of the West and Russia, and anybody else, know this. They have one big problem... conquering Z. And that's all. And they recognize this, even though us 'peasants' don't. They are doing the conquering in different ways. France is doing it by providing security for Z.

The point is, without a legal flow from Z-land into a land called Ukraine, THERE ISN'T ANY UKRAINE.

Cool

This is FALSE INFORMATION: Ukraine is an independent country since 24th August 1991, just a many of the ex-Soviet republics. Ukraine was recognised by Ruzzia in December 1991 and 182 countries of the 192 in the United Nations around the same dates.

Ukraine is a country. The Constitution of Ukraine has NOT been cancelled. Zelensky won power by elections - he does not "talk" about Ukraine, he is the president elect of Ukraine.

There isn't anything factually correct - nor correct under any interpretation in all you have said here.

You contradict yourself. Ukraine was cancelled by Zelensky when he broke the Ukrainian Constitution by cancelling elections. Elections are in the U-constitution. They haven'd been done. The Constitution has been cancelled. The new land is either a no-man's land or it is Zelensky land.

Did Z have an appropriately legal method for cancelling elections? Where is it? And did he follow through with it? Where is it?

The things you say are simply things that have been published by other countries. Even if they were published by Z, where is legal follow-through that makes them legal?

Simply stated, Z doesn't have any of that legal paperwork. Zelensky is the dictator of his own country that he conquered through destroying the Ukrainian Constitution when he disallowed elections. That's what is legal... not any hogwash that the West and Russia might be spouting. And certainly not any of your hogwash.

Cool

This is FALSE INFORMATION

- Zelensky was elected. He is less of a dictator than Trump as he requires the Congress for many important decissions.

- The Ukrainian constitution is being followed to the letter.The Ukrainian constitution does not allow elections during martial law (so yes, there is "paperwork" dumBAss). It is not only legal, it is exactly what the Ukrainian constitution says.

Altough you do not know, because you are a Chinese red-neck, not ever bothered to learn about politics and history, ,any long standing democratic countries suspend elections while at war. You do not read the thread that is obvious, because all this has beed discussed a few posts ago.

This narrative about Zelensky is being used by Trump to find an easy way out of his promise of peace. He though he would just bully Zelensky into signing a shitty deal. Well, as usual, trying easy yet wrong ideas to complex problems. Trump's branded shit.

BTW there are talks in Europe of dedicating enough to keep the war going for another year...

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-war-in-ukraine-military-aid-package-donald-trump-volodymyr-zelenskyy/

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EU leaders plan €20B Ukraine aid package as Trump turns against Zelenskyy
As the U.S. turns its back, Europe is scrambling to step up.

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The amount of European aid, which would include military hardware like artillery shells and missiles as well as cash, could yet rise farther as diplomats continue intensive consultations ahead of a gathering of foreign ministers in Brussels on Monday. POLITICO reported earlier this week that the package's projected value was €6 billion to €10 billion, but that amount has changed during the talks and could still evolve.

Can you point exactly where in the UA constitution it does not allow presidential elections during martial law? Or explain why do you keep repeating what you know to be a lie

Quote from: https://ccu.gov.ua/sites/default/files/constitution_2019_eng.pdf

Article 103
The President of Ukraine is elected by the citizens of Ukraine, on the basis of
universal, equal and direct suffrage, by secret ballot for a five-year term.
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I'm pretty sure it's been over five years since the last UA presidential election. Now, you can claim all you want that EU doesn't want UA to have a presidential elections, that's fine, or even justify practicality of it, but unless you can cite it, stop saying that UA constitution is being followed Angry