Quote from: DaRude on June 05, 2025, 03:12:03 PM

Quote from: paxmao on June 05, 2025, 10:23:07 AM

Furher hits in Ruzzian planes have been video-evidenced:

https://www.twz.com/air/firm-evidence-of-russian-aircraft-losses-after-ukrainian-drone-strikes

This two do hurt. Ruzzia does have ... was it 6 of these AWACS flying rada type? And they cannot build more.

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shows two A-50 being targeted. The location was presumably Ivanovo, where these radar planes are home-based.

Several strategic bombers, at roughly 400 millions each. You can pretend nothing happens, but it happens all the same. In some of the videos you can observe some of the planes had missiles ready to be launched right before the "peace negotiations".

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Among those aircraft, the new video confirms that several of the Tu-95MS bombers were already loaded with Kh-101 conventionally armed cruise missiles, ready for launch against Ukraine, as seen in the image below. This fact underlines how big a threat these aircraft are to Ukraine and reinforces the fact that they are legitimate targets

If you use your strategic forces to attack Ukraine, they are legit targets. I wonder if they could pull a similar strike against the F-31's, just to make sure Ruzzia also loosses the ability to destroy satelites.

Quote from: DaRude on June 04, 2025, 10:54:47 PM

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Quote from: paxmao on June 04, 2025, 08:54:31 AM

Please, provide the whole picture. This railway line was being used to supply the frontline. The railway is a perfectly valid target. Just a more clear example: You start landing civilian planes on an airport that has also military use and military planes landing there or you start storing munitions under a civilian building.
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How many thousands of Shaheds and missiles Russia launched at Ukraine? How many thousands anti air missiles Ukraine launched to try and intercept them? What's the anti air success rate? Where do Ukrainians put together their UAV's is it in isolated building in the middle of nowhere and away from all civilians or inside the cities? Â What happens to a missile/Shahed when Ukraine jams GPS to bring it down so it doesn't reach its intended target? What's the civilian casualty rate to missiles Shaheds/launched? How does that ratio compare to say US or Israels and their offensives on countries that don't have the jamming technology or anti air missiles in such quantities? Compare apples to apples.

That's new, didn't see a claim that that passenger train was used for military logistics? Can you provide a source?

I am not claiming the passenger cars where being used for military logistics but since you mention it, it could be perfectly be carrying troops, Since that has happened in the past, railways going near the front become a target. Can you provide evidence to the contrary?

However, I am saying that the line was being used for military logistics, that is very close to the front and that Ruzzia cannot keep living as if they were not at war. If you have an area of fighting, you do not send civilian trains, you evacuate. Ukraine does it all the time.

The problem is that Ruzzia's government is pretending that "nothing is happening", but since two years to now, more and more is happening in Ruzzia and it is difficult to hide.

I do not know where the drone factories of Ukraine are and I would not tell you if I knew. Sending an inherently innacurate drone in the middle of Kiev or killing randomly in Kherson is not targeted to a military objective, it is a strategy of terror very clearly. So, as usual, trying to use a double standard here.

Last I checked Ukraine didn't have any military satellites, so why would it care about Russia's abilities to destroy satellites? Or are we at the point where it's just ridiculous to deny that this is a proxy war with Ukraine being used just for the supply of souls with no chance of ever getting into NATO?

Once again, just because a military vehicle drives on some paved surface, does it make a school bus driving on that same surface a valid military target in your eyes?

Why are drones inherently inaccurate? Then, the drones Ukraine is sending at Russia's cities is a strategy of terror, just with less quantities?

Quote from: https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-state-secretary-calls-moscows-085637200.html

Thu, March 6, 2025 - US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has claimed that Moscow's full-scale invasion of Ukraine is in fact a proxy war between the US and Russia.

Quote from: https://www.axios.com/2025/06/05/trump-reaction-ukraine-drone-attack-spiderweb

One Trump adviser said: "From an international perspective, you've got a chihuahua inflicting some real damage on a much bigger dog."

Oh, you do not get it or are prettending not to get it? Ukraine may not care about Ruzzia destroying satelites, but certain Ruzzia cares. Ukraine's strategy during the last couple of years is making the war extremely expensive for Ruzzia by taking down systems Ruzzia cannot replace nor afford to loose (e.g. strategic bombers like this time).

If the road is in the middle of a war zone and you are moving a train towards the front... But hey, it is not really me, it is something Ruzzia has and is doing all the time, so I would like to see you pointing that out. Not gonna happen uh?

Trump has said that many times "do not pick a fight with someone bigger" - but that does not make it an immutable truth. When survival is at risk, you take on the bully and make sure he looses more than he wins.

Not understanding this explains your comment above. BTW damaging the nuclear and missile capabilities of Ruzzia to that scale does not seem like a small dog bite.