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XYES should just pay out the winnings of all the bets & then close their account.

and why would they do it if we are`cheaters` according to them? xyes just put this shit on us and now cant take it back even though they apparently would love to. thats why they keep negotiating a price through holydarkness

did you give holydarkness permission to access information on your account. Have you given any sportsbooks permission that they can share your information? I always get approval from the player.

No, why would i? The guy says he saw proof and yet talking abt a deal. Hes not credible

ask holy to proceed with the case. You’ve gone this far.

Nah i dont trust him. Doesn't matter if hes able to get my money or not, i d rather the casino admit their guilt and pay up, not with secret backdoor conversations and negotiations

This case is even worse than I thought. When I did arbitration I always had to get permission. There are laws such as GDPR in Europe and a privacy law in Curacao after LOK. Sportsbooks can't even share information with other sportsbooks even if they use the same 3rd party identity verification such as Veriff. I just assumed you gave everyone permission because so many were digging into your account.

With this new development, Holydarkness should make his decision on if this is a scam or not ignoring all the fake documents from XYes. All he has to do is look at the bet slips and talk to people that are veteran sports gamblers. This should solve the 5 second case.

Don't use efialtis. He went against the governing body for sports betting fraud investigation. The governing body said that games were obviously fixed by looking at the betslips alone. efialtis didn't understand the betslips. He didn't listen to fraud investigation and said there was no evidence. Then he gave negative trust to Fairlay. Need someone like flexie80.

You're pretty naive if you think these scammers ever heard of any privacy law. How many people already said that they saw our account details, holy, g.o.t and god knows who else. Even when they ask for your documents they don't use a third party identification service and just ask to send by email. Then they hilariously claim that all documents are safe with encryption lmao.
This casino is just less professional than anything i ve seen.

I get shocked more and more every day since it’s basic stuff. They think you guys arbed making less than $12 over all your bets.

I will quote this pyramid-quote for full context and give readers understanding of what's being discussed here.

I initially ignore as I don't think it worth addressing and I don't mind people slinging mud at me. I even laughed yesterday, reading the post, at the pathetic attempt made by Peeps to grasp straws and sling muds But with other thread getting its resolution and these mudslingers tried to spin yet another drama, and this time it's not just me, but they tried to smear the casino too...

Peeps, you dive even further down to the rabbit hole of your reputation self-destruction on your attempt to paint me and the casino as bad actors.

Far as I remember, the casino barely share any info about ziportan. All discussion we had was darwstall's and the "private info" was that flag and his D/W stat. Quote me and give the overseers here an evidence where I, or the casino, or perhaps God of Thunder, or any person related to XYes, said anything that XYes share ziportan's private data to me without his consent. Please?

I believe that'll be very hard task to be done, becase there should be none. The casino didn't share anything private about ziportan. Not sure where you got that idea. A creative mud to be thrown, though. Still, there should be no GDPR or LOK or any breach of privacy from them sharing ziportan's private data to me.

Why would they, anyway? I am not "bridging" his case. SMH.

Quote from: ziportan on June 26, 2025, 10:45:51 AM

or just they already made an agreement with the casino and decided to pay up to erase the scam accusations and he ll be the hero negotiator and we re supposed to be grateful.

i dont see any explanation when you see the `evidence` that the user was 100% faulty and yet still keep pushing to negotiate , although you kept swearing that youre out of this case like 10 times already.

lmfao. everything happens exactly according to the script.

a shady casino steals your money, casino employee calls out for another shady guy who keeps having backdoor conversations to get peoples LEGALLY WON winnings , becomes the hero and both casino and him expect appreciation. but noone asks the question `why the hell we need some random guy to be able to get paid our winnings?`

why the casino wouldnt just pay unless we write it here, wait for days, deal with dirty negotiations and THEN maybe they ll pay and it ll be ok?

when was the last time you saw a casino paid up for `a good faith` after accusing the user for scam for weeks? it was just a bs accusation and we all know it.

by the way, im not getting paid and my winnings are still kept stolen by the casino although i wasnt even accused of arb betting but value betting,which every other casino just blocks you after pays you the full amount of winnings without a question.. as the `negotiator` says i ve been `smearing shit` to them by telling all the truth and this disgusting dark relationships between these `trusted members` of the forum and the casinos, which never pay unless you communicate them through these members like some kinda prophets.

so apparently , they wont pay me cos i `annoyed ` them lol