Quote from: holydarkness on June 25, 2025, 04:09:42 PM

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Quote from: Rating Place on June 25, 2025, 03:04:53 PM

holydarkness, he does make a good point. You have to stop believing everything the casino and casino reps tell you. All 5 of your contacts were wrong about odds providers. Now you are saying XYes showed proof of arbitrage betting. They didn’t show you any proof.

Getting flagged doesn’t mean arbitrage. It could be CLV (closing line value). You will get flagged for CLV and that’s what most likely happened.

Amuse and enlighten me at the same time, then. I ask five different casino representatives about sportsbook providers, and they were all wrong? All five of them? Why is that and who or what should I believe then, and why?

For the record, the proof they're showing me for this case is their version of the similar-fashioned proof shown by other casinos. I should not believing that proof too? Thus, the evidence shown by other casinos in different cases should not be trusted too? And why is that? Safe to assume the other casinos also fabricate evidence of arbing? In a very similar fashion? How's that achievable? All casinos, has similar fashioned evidence, only differ slightly. Is it because they conspire behind the screen? Or what? Again, so who and what to believe and why?

And, last: when you said no migraine, it's because you're expecting me to have the casino pay the player, otherwise, when an evidence showed me other thing that'll make it rather justified to confiscate half or full fund [their ToS covered this] and I look for a way to find middle ground and question things, those "no headache" no longer valid?

I can't see the asterix on that statement, *as long as you make it in favor to player.

Oh, by the way, yes, unlike above section that no longer matter to me, I am expecting an answer for each and every question I raised to you here.

I copied your questions and will answer in red as you requested.

Amuse and enlighten me at the same time, then. I ask five different casino representatives about sportsbook providers, and they were all wrong? All five of them? Yes, all 5 of casino reps were wrong. The sports book makes the final decision, not the provider. Why is that and who or what should I believe then, and why? You should believe people with sports betting experience.

For the record, the proof they're showing me for this case is their version of the similar-fashioned proof shown by other casinos. I should not believing that proof too? Of course you shouldn't believe anything from XYes. They told you that hadn't updated their license when they never had a license. Thus, the evidence shown by other casinos in different cases should not be trusted too? And why is that? Safe to assume the other casinos also fabricate evidence of arbing? In a very similar fashion? How's that achievable? All casinos, has similar fashioned evidence, only differ slightly. Is it because they conspire behind the screen? Or what? Again, so who and what to believe and why? I don't understand this. You stated that due to privacy acts the only thing you saw was a paper from the provider saying that one player was a value bettor and the other an arbitrage player.

And, last: when you said no migraine, it's because you're expecting me to have the casino pay the player, otherwise, when an evidence showed me other thing that'll make it rather justified to confiscate half or full fund [their ToS covered this] and I look for a way to find middle ground and question things, those "no headache" no longer valid? Yes, I thought you would recommend that they casino would pay the player. That's why I told you that you should jump in that it would take 5 seconds. There is no proof. You saw a cautionary flag for value betting that said you may want to look into it. I looked at the tiny amounts of the bets and figured if they were value bets, the player may have just gotten lucky. It was a small sample size of 6 with 4 being tiny amounts.

I can't see the asterix on that statement, *as long as you make it in favor to player.

Oh, by the way, yes, unlike above section that no longer matter to me, I am expecting an answer for each and every question I raised to you here. I think I covered them all but will add. XYes has no rule against value plays. Their rules state that it's against the ToS to make bets for guaranteed profit. That's arbitrage.