Quote from: Hispo on Today at 10:22:28 AM

If you think about it, this is something which happens with you end up being part of a population which has a territory but not a regular army to defend it. Hamas is only interested in getting food for their soldiers and continue to fight a war against Israel, keeping hostages at their mercy as bargain chip and abusing of the Palestinian people. On the other hand, we have Israel, which has political reasons to try to annex Gaza strip after they manage to wipe out Hamas out existence. In the middle of all of it there are the people of Gaza, with no defense and no food and the food delivered could translated to them getting shot on a queue.

In the mean time, main stream media seem to have forgotten about the humanitarian crisis going on there and focus on the Republican party, Elon Musk and Artificial intelligence.

Do you think Israel wants to annex Gaza just to wipe out Hamas and leave Palestinians to continue to live there?

Quote from: https://msf.org.uk/issues/gaza-genocide

An unprecedented humanitarian crisis is unfolding in Gaza. MSF (Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders) is clear: We are witnessing Israel commit genocide...We urge Israeli authorities and the complicit governments that enable these atrocities, including the UK Government, to end the siege now and take action to prevent the erasure of Palestinians from Gaza.

But i'm sure our local forum troll will say that we shouldn't trust UN or Doctors Without Borders or any other international organization, but should just trust his made up stories. Roll Eyes

Quote from: paxmao on Today at 02:45:43 PM

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Quote from: paxmao on July 24, 2025, 09:26:43 PM

I am astonished at the lack of information that is happening across many countries. The current Israeli government trying to kill every single person in Gaza by preventing the right amount of food to enter the strip and by shooting at the people queuing for food.

There is no doubt this is a genocide and it is comming from the people who constantly (and rightfully BTW) claim to have suffered one themselves.

I am no fan of terrorist, nor Hamas nor any of that shit, but the children of Gaza have nothing to do with it.

Frankly I'm a bit surprised that you've brought this up. Think there will be even one sanction against Israel from Europe for this? Rhetorical question. Then how can people that allow this to happen have any credibility to lecture us on other conflicts? It's quiet despicable how oppressed use their status to become the oppressors. Think any politician in Germany can vote or even hint that Israel is committing genocide now?

That's the downside of the unchallenged super power. When it's leader gets derailed and decides to build a casino on top of kids cemetery, we see how quickly all internal institutions and other puppet states just fall in line and dance to the puppeteer even against their core values. If it happens for something sacred like genocide, there's really no hope for anything else. Russia is occupied, and China is keeping out of global conflicts for now, so unfortunately unless people inUS/EU rebel, looks like those kids are doomed. But I'm sure later on after these politicians change, an investigation will inevitably conclude the obvious, that it was a genocide and new politicians will apologize (like they did in Rwanda), it won't help the murdered kids but the system will keep up the perception of moral superiority.

Will there be a Ruzzian sanction to Israel for this?

Rethorical of course.

Yes, you are surprised because you do think that I am something I am not.

BTW yes, several individual EU countries have take hard diplomatic stances with Israel, but if Trump supports, there is not that much that Europe can do.

You have the same expectations of Russia currently trying to hold together it's sphere of influence to that of Europe with 10x GDP of Russia and imposing it's will on others? Unfortunately these EU commodity sanctions just reshuffle oil supply, meaning Russia is now sending more of its oil to Israel. It'd be nice for them to stop, but the stakes for them stopping selling oil to Israel are much higher, they'll have to pay for it with their own blood and in current conditions could even be existential for them, so i just don't see it happening.

No one is asking for Europe to send troops, but when did Europe became so impotent that it's even unable to stop profiting from a genocide?