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How nice to totally ignore the Bucharest NATO summit, where in April 2008 USA wanted Georgia to join NATO, which would've been impossible with disputed territories in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Then, just 4 months later Georgia attacks sends it's army to take over South Ossetia by force, is all just a total coincidence, not even worth mentioning for "full data", right? 
this is an accompanying/additional reason and it took place.Georgia would have tried to get its territories back in any case.
But of course you are trying to shift the topic to NATO?
it is so predictable.
A club of historians is being formed here since the time of the Rurikovichs (reference to Putin)
in any case it is an off-topic.
However, you have really shit yourself with your lies.
again Gaza...
I regret reading this, but now I can't keep quiet
I regret reading this, but now I can't keep quiet
in one Ukrainians are encouraged to relocate
What nonsense, what kind of "encouragement for resettlement" are we talking about?Are you not aware that Ukrainians issue evacuation orders for cities coming on the front lines, they even try to force people to evacuate but millions of civilians still stay and then become Russian citizens.
Dude, I'm literally from Russia and I have relatives in Ukraine.
And I know (everyone knows) that there are NOT millions of people who remain on the front lines.
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Obviously there is no exact data, Ukraine wouldn't release it. A minority? Please cite your claims. How many did you think there were?
According to unofficial data, more than a million people died, more likely closer to 1.2 million.Quote
What makes them not "full citizens" are you claiming that "full" Russian citizens were not mobilized as well? Citation or just spreading propaganda?
complete lack of social protectionQuote
Cite something to back up your claim that there is "no water or electricity" in Crimea, Mariupol, Melitopol in comparison to Ukrainian cities, or stop spreading propaganda.
in many cities of Ukraine that are captured, there is no water and electricity, the cities are not being restoredQuote
Thank you for proving my point, despite such huge land destruction, somehow Russia amazingly still managed to keep civilian casualties to a minimum.
You lied — I caught you. But now you’re twisting it as if I “confirmed your point of view,” even though earlier you claimed there was no destruction.
I’ll repeat your lie and my reply again.
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collateral damage in Ukraine is minimal compared to military deaths and lower in absolutes than in Gaza.
This is already a blatant lie. In Ukraine, dozens of small towns have been destroyed, together exceeding the area of Gaza.In Gaza, about 185 square kilometers are destroyed. In Ukraine (counting only the immediate combat zone), the scale of destruction is about 300 square kilometers — and that’s just medium-sized towns.
On top of that, there are countless villages. And there is also destruction in cities far from the front lines that are still hit by Russian missiles.
In total, this adds up to about 900 square kilometers — 2.4 times larger than Gaza.
There is not a single city in Ukraine that has not been shelled. This is not a border skirmish, it is a full-scale war.
Nature and open land have also been devastated: fields, forests, shelterbelts, roads, bridges, and dams destroyed.
Your ignorance is catastrophic. I strongly advise you not to get into topics you clearly don’t understand.
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This data is understated.In the combat zone, it is impossible to adequately and safely not only recover all the bodies, but even approach the area.
Ukraine does not have a Hamas-style “Ministry of Health” that releases casualty figures within an hour after an attack.
the problem with people like me is that I do not have endless time to sit here and object to your lies. I don't have the time or resources for this. I don't get paid for this. That's why propaganda usually wins.
Original archived Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
Scraped on 15/08/2025, 20:32:08 UTC
How nice to totally ignore the Bucharest NATO summit, where in April 2008 USA wanted Georgia to join NATO, which would've been impossible with disputed territories in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Then, just 4 months later Georgia attacks sends it's army to take over South Ossetia by force, is all just a total coincidence, not even worth mentioning for "full data", right?
this is an accompanying/additional reason and it took place.Georgia would have tried to get its territories back in any case.
But of course you are trying to shift the topic to NATO?
it is so predictable.
A club of historians is being formed here since the time of the Rurikovichs (reference to Putin)
in any case it is an off-topic.
However, you have really shit yourself with your lies.
again Gaza...
I regret reading this, but now I can't keep quiet
I regret reading this, but now I can't keep quiet
in one Ukrainians are encouraged to relocate
What nonsense, what kind of "encouragement for resettlement" are we talking about?Are you not aware that Ukrainians issue evacuation orders for cities coming on the front lines, they even try to force people to evacuate but millions of civilians still stay and then become Russian citizens.
Dude, I'm literally from Russia and I have relatives in Ukraine.
And I know (everyone knows) that there are NOT millions of people who remain on the front lines.
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Obviously there is no exact data, Ukraine wouldn't release it. A minority? Please cite your claims. How many did you think there were?
According to unofficial data, more than a million people died, more likely closer to 1.2 million.Quote
What makes them not "full citizens" are you claiming that "full" Russian citizens were not mobilized as well? Citation or just spreading propaganda?
complete lack of social protectionQuote
Cite something to back up your claim that there is "no water or electricity" in Crimea, Mariupol, Melitopol in comparison to Ukrainian cities, or stop spreading propaganda.
in many cities of Ukraine that are captured, there is no water and electricity, the cities are not being restoredQuote
Thank you for proving my point, despite such huge land destruction, somehow Russia amazingly still managed to keep civilian casualties to a minimum.
Casualties have not been minimized, see above.Quote
This data is understated.In the combat zone, it is impossible to adequately and safely not only recover all the bodies, but even approach the area.
Ukraine does not have a Hamas-style “Ministry of Health” that releases casualty figures within an hour after an attack.
the problem with people like me is that I do not have endless time to sit here and object to your lies. I don't have the time or resources for this. I don't get paid for this. That's why propaganda usually wins.