Quote from: shakaru on December 27, 2011, 09:49:09 AM

Ok, so if you know me for OTC, you know I am not a fan of offtopic discussion. So. I ask that this thread be locked. Keep the investigation open and any update can be added to this post, by only the admin through subsion and peer review through PM. I have no issues with the matters of this beign held publically, but if the admins of this forum start to think it is an burden in its current state, then do as you see fit.

Sorry about that, I unexpectedly had no internet for several days. Unfortunately, it's too late to save this thread.

Quote from: shakaru on December 27, 2011, 04:34:58 PM

Woke up this morning..........

AND PAYPAL TOLD ME I WON!

"Hello Andrew Nollan,

We have completed our investigation of the transaction below and were
unable to find evidence of unauthorized access to the buyers account. This
case was denied to the buyer and no funds were recovered from your account.

Senders name: jonathon schlack
Senders email: jonathon.schlack@gmail.com
Transaction ID: 0GK79914GT6570243"

Nice! Please document the fees this cost you (stop payment fee, chargeback fee, etc.) and submit them to me for evaluation. Once that is done, you will need to return the difference to astana in about 180 days (just in case he tries something else). I know you want to get back at this guy, but you'll be labeled a scammer just the same, even though you feel that you are reverse-scamming a scammer (I, personally, am not claiming that astana is a scammer; my original ruling still stands that this is/was a misunderstanding).

Quote from: blue.mitzi on December 29, 2011, 07:47:48 PM

I'm not astana, I know he has asked me to post this. Make of it what you will.

"First notice they didn't ban me for scamming, oh no because THEY NO I NEVER HAVE. They banned me for trolling, pathetic fucks. All I will say to you andrew is every dog has it's day and karma will fuck you in ass hard, like most of the other dysfunctional cocksuckers on here you have the morals of a $2 whore and fuck over anyone and everyone. BTW i haven't threatened you, again your a liar.

You seem pretty chummy here andrew infact one might say enthisiastic, this proves you took my money for 4 cards.

the pastbin of the conversation http://pastebin.com/8c7M2iyP

More pastebin, funny you big fat liar you don't seem to have any issues here.

http://pastebin.com/VnTvQNdh

Shane gave me your postcode

he is also the one who sold him one of cards for bitcoins

AND finally you fucking liar you haven't refunded me one fucking cent.

Wow look $1600 in transactions to Andrew Nolan.

BTW andrew where are the cards hae explained what happened to them? Do you even have proof you got them? I haven't seen shit all evidence saying you did.

RETUIRN MY MONEY YOU FUCKING CHEATING SCUMBAG.

ANd people have the balls to call me a scammer, prove it you dipshits. you cant because i never have, your supporting a snitch and a liar must feel good hey. you losers check your fucking facts before you waste another brain cell.

Remember what happens to snitches in life andrew, you threaten me with police when you are the fucking criminal? You disgrace.

And last to parasite LoupGaroux, your a fucking clown I wouldn't spit on you. Your a mindless fucking drone who believes anything and everything, you must be what 15? "

HOLY SHIT!!! I honestly can't believe my eyes! The very information that I've literally been asking for THIS ENTIRE THREAD has finally been posted!

This information matches the information that shakaru sent me. Yes, even that of the transaction summary page he sent me privately. The refund would have appeared in your account on the 21st if you hadn't reversed the previous transactions. Had you waited until then and not received a refund, shakaru would have had quite a bit to answer to.

My original ruling stands. This is a misunderstanding. Because of the dispute, the funds will be held for 180 days from the transaction (unless shakaru decides to do better than that). If you wish, you (astana) may select some reputable person/business to hold the funds until then.