Quote from: buttsoup99 on June 25, 2014, 04:59:21 AM

Quote from: btc_shell on June 24, 2014, 06:32:11 PM

So, it seems you're obviously coming from a different perspective, likely the HMD VR crowd who in gengeral wants to see a finished and pretty render to place in the news.. Or maybe you didn't read in their response on reddit that their site was only up for the past 3 days and google indexed them the first day resulting in an unfinished website and tons of pre-orders?

Unlike the VR community, people here are throwing money(bitcoins and cryptos) at these miner companies with little or nothing more than an announcement from them that they are developing a miner. Sometimes they win, other times they don't. But without that, there wouldn't have been a KNC, Butterfly labs (good riddance), Alpha Tech, etc... etc... etc....

So that's what's *great* about the crypto community, unlike the VR gaming one.

You're right, I am coming from the VR community. Even a passing familiarity with the VR hardware space makes it abundantly clear how completely bullshit the Horizon4k VR headset is. And even if you're not at all familiar, growing up in the internet age fosters a pretty robust scammer intuition, which I should hope is going absolutely batshit right now. So I thought I'd just share some of those insights for those who may not be aware, because the people who commit these scams damage the public trust in VR (or in any space the scammers infiltrate). And if I can take even a dollar out of their pockets, I'll gladly try.

But hey, what are you gonna do, speculators gonna speculate.

What am I "gonna do" indeed- as you put it so eloquently. However at least you are honest in that I was right you were coming here from the VR community to try to disparage it. Also you're comments about trying to damage a new company's reputation to 'take a dollar from them' belies your underlying motives and I highly suspect you're from a rival company, possibly Infiniteye, who's design is similar but only 720p. So while your welcome to continue the smear campaign in front of us who've ordered the V, I will say this-

When Oculus started, they were simply a kickstarter campaign out of a garage- no product, nothing, zip, zilch, and just an idea and a promise. -They raised over a million bucks. Where were you back then crying that 'they have no product!' or 'it's bullshit' or an impossible idea? So, they were merely an idea and a ski mask and cell phone. But yet you won't extend the same to another company pushing 4K limits with an idea due in a year? It's obviously a campaign no doubt, but your hypocrisy smells a bit to me like excrement.

It's why I'm saying you work for a rival company. You can't stand to see a competitor come out and get funded by people eager to see the technology be release -again in a year. sheesh- Roll Eyes

So to sum up, maybe you aren't aware (you are) that the LG G3 has already been released in QHD. Now if I strap two of those puppies onto a 3D printed frame which I made in my 3D printer at home in my garage (even more than Oculus did to start!), and connected them via Splashtop or other to my GPUs- and then said 'wow this is great' and formed a company, hired some developers, and started a kickstarter campaign to pursue, you'd cry too wouldn't you? You can't extend the same courtesy to another company because you believe only that Oculus has the right to do that! But that's not correct- anyone is free to start a campaign based on an idea. Not just Oculus nor their fanboys protecting the legend of they started in a garage. Anyone can start in a garage with an idea. If people back it, it can be pushed forward.

So, jealousy I think. You just don't want anyone to beat your company to the task.

Horizon could easily be working with QHD prototype screens from an LG G3 and waiting for the panels to arrive next year to up the resolution a bit- which is pretty similar to what they've hinted at. But good luck convincing others that QHD phones don't exist too and that you couldn't strap them to your head with a couple of cheap fresnels!